Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

So much worse that you're opposed to VW even being in F1 while Mercedes did the same thing? Hardly such a big difference between what they did.

Was VW just the first to be caught?

Not being sarcastic or anything.

But the way the world is gone, do you think VW would miss you or care less?

If Mercedes honestly gave a f*** about such things, they wouldn't be racing in Saudi bloody Arabia, home of the misogynistic autocracy and extra judicial killing.

The hypocrisy makes me want to vomit.

Besides, Kingspan make a World class product, it was simply installed in Grenfell by the guy who put in the cheapest ****ing price.

Toto can **** off along with all the MB bosses who stand for this nonsense.

Read online that if Max and Lewis both DNF then Max wins by default due to him winning more races.

Some Senna level intrigue ahead.

Just his points total, he kept all his 1997 results. He was only punished because he failed. He successfully got away with blatantly doing it in 1994, like Senna in 1990

Yeah but Hamilton has the speed to win next week at a canter unless things go mad. He won that race 3 times over at the weekend. He would have won in the first instance when he had Max in hand. Then when max got ahead due to the first red flag, he overtook max again. Then he was faster than max even when on the harder tyre and just waited for Max to use his tyre and passed him to win at a canter.

The Mercedes is just miles faster in race pace and Hamilton is doing a great job in spite of Max best efforts within and outwith the rules. Hamilton should win handily next week. It's a shame that it will be the exact same end result as every other year since 2014 (except 2016) but i can't begrudge Hamilton this win. He's been very good and is the best car driver package this year again.

Well, if the fastest lap is done by someone outside the top 10 the nobody gets the point. So in the scenario above they would go back to level points and and Max would win by having more race wins than Hamilton.

Oh yes. Hamilton is out in the scenario above. I get you.

Jeddah was supposed to have favoured Mercedes too, but had Max stuck it on pole, the race could have been an entirely different story.

Bookies make Hamilton favourite in Abu Dhabi and I think that's right, but it's not done and dusted by any means. Hamilton's engine reliability worries, and the fact that a double DNF wins it for Max, will certainly add intrigue. Max dominated the same race last year too -- albeit prior to the track alterations. I just really hope it's decided on track.

And I reeeeally hope next year's Merc and Red Bull are of similar performance levels...

I hope 2 teams come out of nowhere and completely tear it up in cars that have nailed the new regs! Bottas v Albon for the title while Russell is still celebrated for getting his car into Q3 next year. I'm sure it would all normalise eventually but it would be great craic before it does :D

12 years of Mercedes and Red Bull is enough. Its time for Ferrari, Mclaren, Alpine to come good again or one of the others to do a Brawn on it.

Next year's regulations will be interesting - still hoping that Ferrari or McLaren or someone ill spring a surprise with the new cars. But probably will be Mercedes at the front again!

When he did that he was on softer tyres. Hardly a basis for comparison. Lewis was just significantly faster in race trim even if max could have pipped him to pole, Lewis was still significantly faster.