Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

I wouldn’t worry about dust around any French machine, I’d much prefer dust to cowshyte.

About 14-18mts ago I sourced a new 420S for a neighbor in Ireland. He paid €98+vat. He told me recently that they’re well over €130k now.

Time to keep the hands off the chèque book. I sourced an L70D with 10500hrs that was fresh off the Volvo gold service contract and is impeccable. Money was right also…€20k + vat. Now I need to source a scraper tractor…

Wow, We're getting shafted over here.

Logistically would there be much of an issue getting a french machine to Irish shores? I assume it could come via Cherbourg to Dublin?

Jeez at that money I'd shift a tractor and have one of those in a heartbeat

I never heard of anyone having one. I was looking for a 320 and this came up. It’s been sitting in the dealers for over a year and he was glad enough to be rid. I suppose that it’s made by another manufacturer and put in JD livery?

I wouldn’t be mad about the visibility either.

https://www.donedeal.ie/dairycattle-for-sale/anti-kick-unit/28054772

Came across this on donedeal. Any lad that thinks it's acceptable to use these devices deserves a kick between the 2 eyes.

We had a caterpillar 910 back when I was a young lad, I never could go with a tractor loader after that, suffered most of a decade with a fiat 110 and front loader. Decided never again. Have a sweeper, beet chopper, pallet forks, grab and bucket now. Does alot of work

You need a lot of work to justify a loader IMO

we’ve only ever had tractor loaders here but a proper loader definitely is a better job

our choice was to always have a good tractor with loader that could do all the work and change every 5 year putting 1200-1400 hrs a year

now we’ve come to a stage where we need bigger hp /more weight but a bigger tractor is too awkward for feeding and cleaning sheds

so which way to we go

Repairs and maintenance on a loader is the biggest negative, plus finding a good dealership that will look after the machine, depreciation was a massive issue too, up until lately compared to a tractor/loader combination....

If you end up buying a pup of a second-hand loader that needs a good bit of spannering it will financially break you, alot less risk with the tractor/loader combo, for example bought a immaculate lm435 new holland 3 years ago with 4000 hours of a arable farm, the loader straight sale not going through the workshop was 25k, I done the deal for 29k, but she needed to go through the workshop and all faults fixed plus 6 months warranty, the dealer had to put 8k into her after once he had went fully through it, they are a money pit for wearing parts

Ya should get a demo of a loader for a few days, ya wouldn't be long being able to justify it.

Have a loader here 4 years now, best machine in the yard, all cows, heifers and weanlings feed in 40 minutes, also have narrow sheds that it can get into and clean out.

But as jay said if ya buy a bad 1 it'll break ya.

Oh no dispute they’re a better job but you need the level of work there for them to pay for themselves

ive worked in farms previously with them

machinery is just gone to expensive now to not having it working

the option is trade out 5445 mf which is a lovely tractor and buy a bigger 6 series mf and use that for feeding/slurry/ mowing/ drawing bales and still have our 5712 and put it on diet feeder and for cleaning out sheds

Or try but a loader straight second hand, and keep the 2 tractor loaders

i wouldn’t let go of 2 tractors with loaders tbh, we only got there a few years ago and it’s made a massive difference to what work is done when pressure is on

2 tractors and loaders with trailers moves bales fairly quick

DGM and KAT. A ten year old machine with a decent badge would hold its value better.

Pure madness justifying two loader tractors, for drawing a few hundred bales, is their not any wagon outfits in the area that would come in and do your surplus paddocks etc and put everything into the pit, the savings on plastic alone plus not rooting at bales for the summer would nearly pay the repayments on a telehandler, biggest plus with telehandler for covering pits aswell been able to reach the top with tyres

new slab for 100 acres put in last year

won’t be putting another one for another few years

we’d do 6-800 bales along with it and then 200 straw

it’s not madness, the 2 tractors well pay there way and can do any of our jobs

we still have our bale silage set up which I can’t get dad to part with

our pit silage contractor covers the pit with us, I’d never leave him to go wagon

Think their the same as a manipoo