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Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 - (*** Spoilers***)

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  • #212
    Need a Username
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    I am way behind in all shows but this time I was ready to watch Discovery episodes as they became available.

    I should have known something would happen :p



  • #213
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,938 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217823#Comment_118217823

    I don't even like it but it sucks when you are invested in a number of Trek forums and don't have a clue what people are talking about



  • #214
    Need a Username
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217886#Comment_118217886

    Are you saying that you don’t like Discovery but watch just to be involved in the threads?



  • #215
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,938 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219066#Comment_118219066

    I was probably being a bit over the top. I like some parts of the show but every time I say I am done with it I end up reading loads about it on forums and end up watching again



  • #216
    Stark
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182092#Comment_118182092

    Huh? I use the acronym STD all the time and I definitely don't consider myself to be "anti-woke". (I get exhausted when the discussion turns to straight white male quotas). Just seems like the most natural abbreviation. I suppose I could use DIS but never really thought of it.



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  • #217
    flazio
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118224231#Comment_118224231

    The reason it's used by haters is because its an acronym of Sexual Transmitted Disease. It's used by the poster to indicate their feelings that the existence of the Discovery TV show is a disease on the Star Trek franchise.

    This too shall pass.



  • #218
    Rawr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Rawr


    STD anonym kind of developed out of habit myself, but if we follow the "naming convention" we've have since Voyager (VOY), then DIS does seem to be the correct short form. Although I tend to find myself usually writing "Discovery" when discussing the show.

    I will draw a personal line at calling the show "Disco". That felt like a term of endearment that the show gave to itself but never actually earned.



  • #219
    pixelburp
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    Weird segue; the first time I saw the acronym, yeah, the 12-year-old in me chuckled 'cos STD. Snort. But never really thought people were weaponising it either; seems like there's more egregious bullshít from the Permanently Outraged than their puerile sense of humour.



  • #220
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225048#Comment_118225048

    It doesn't happen here but on dedicated Trek forums the "STD" people are usually the ones also screaming about "Mary Sue"or "woke agenda" or some other such bollx about black women or gay people



  • #221
    silverharp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225048#Comment_118225048

    I doubt there are too many "permanently outraged" left, any hard core trekkie will have gone through the 5 stages of grief by now 😁

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • #222
    Evade
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    The thing is if you stop using a funny term like STD because those nasty people you don't like use it it gives them the ability to just take ant term away from you.



  • #223
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,938 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225224#Comment_118225224

    Well there are 2 factors to it. 1 is thatas mentioned above it's not STV or STP it's VOY and PIC so DIS is correct for Trek. The other is I really dislike Discovery but trying to argue valid artistic reasons why it's crap using STD means everyone you are arguing with instantly misinterprets what you are trying to say.

    Also after the first time you see it it's not really that funny anymore



  • #224
    Evade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Evade


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225409#Comment_118225409

    Doesn't that kind of reinforce my point? The, admittedly childish, fun poking at the lack of foresight around the name has been ceded to the "bad people" so anyone who uses it gets lumped in with them. If the "bad people" switched to DIS tomorrow and used it in the sense of to insult someone, like "this show is a real DIS on the franchise," what would everyone call it then?



  • #225
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225529#Comment_118225529

    you make it sound like trek fans are very fragile and one has to walk around on eggshells lest one gets to categorise one as a "bad person" hehe!

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #226
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Can it be said to be a lack of foresight? I don't seriously believe any writing team should be fretting over a title, lest its acronym spells out something salacious.



  • #227
    Evade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Evade


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225616#Comment_118225616

    You'd think it would be a consideration at least. With their naming convention they had four other options Columbia, Challenger, Atlantis, and Endeavour although Atalntis might have been off the table because of Stargate



  • #228
    pixelburp
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    Ack, I can't see how it would ever be a reasonable consideration. There's a point with anything where you can't divine how your product or creation is going to be parsed in public. As I said before there are more than enough rods to beat the backs of Discovery's creators without tutting over their poor Acronym-Fu in this instance 😁



  • #229
    Rawr
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225616#Comment_118225616

    I sometimes wonder if the whole "Disco" thing came about on the back of them suddenly realising that the initials of their show spelled out a naughty medical malady. Remember, these Secret Hideout folk do not appear to be Trek fans and were likely unaware of our trekkie tendancy to write TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY etc...and that the whole "ST" bit is a given.

    Kind of also shines a light on how the Lower Decks people are very likely fans since they spent a chunk of time referencing "Those Old Scientists" (TOS), and actually had Boilmer say "VOY" when referring to Voyager :P



  • #230
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225830#Comment_118225830

    I'm so used to saying TOS that I didn't even realize something weird had happened when Ransom said it



  • #231
    Brian CivilEng
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    When it was airing I always referred to TNG as Next Gen. DS9 was DS9 and that worked so well that is even how they referred to the station on the show. Voyager was just Voyager, I agree with Mariner VOY doesn't save time!

    When did the acronym thing start?



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  • #232
    pixelburp
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    Oh Lower Decks' writing team are definitely nerds: but thankfully, nerds who can still write interesting stories without letting the Fan Service get completely obnoxious; Discovery has instead come across like Wiki surfers, or those with a surface level knowledge of Star Trek. Either way, the acronym thing feels especially minute that mistakes are forgiveable.



  • #233
    Evade
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225823#Comment_118225823

    American TV is weird like that. If you end up getting an animated series greenlit by Nickelodeon (I think, it could be somewhere else) they will allegedly ask you if you're comfortable with vast amounts of smut being drawn of your creations and show examples from other series.



  • #234
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225867#Comment_118225867

    It's internet shorthand so probably started to be used wide spread around the time forums became a thing.



  • #235
    breezy1985
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  • #236
    Rawr
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118226105#Comment_118226105

    I then got reinforced with sites like Memory Alpha, where the shorthand names are in all the references.



  • #237
    Brian CivilEng
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Brian CivilEng


    Looking back at this forum 19 years ago, it seems we referred to TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise.

    I have vague memories of using Star Trek Usenets when DS9 and Voyager were airing. Not too much as they had posts from Americans who were months ahead of us, even back in the 90s I didn't want spoilers.

    I'll stick to calling Discovery, Discovery for now.



  • #238
    pah
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225875#Comment_118225875

    IMO the Discovery writing team has a surface level knowledge about everything not just trek. I've pointed out the good and the bad with this show before. I'm struggling to stay with it again.



  • #239
    marcbrophy
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    Ep 1 live on Pluto SciFi channel 52 right now if you happen to "find yourself suddenly in the UK" 😊

    Ep 2 on at 10pm



  • #240
    Rawr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Over here in Scandinavia I have noticed the Paramount+ online advertising is now featuring Discovery front and center. They're trying to tempt people over with a slashed introduction price of about €4-5 a month for the first couple of months.

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    I'm still not tempted to to part with cash for the sake of this show, but I guess they were realising that waiting until next year to put Discovery on their International service was a recipe for trouble.

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  • #241
    TheValeyard
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    Probably realised that the show would be pirated by the who wanted to watch it. No need to sign up to Paramount + then.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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