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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    A friend of mine was doing some DIY recently, he had misplaced his dust mask but had a pack of disposable covid masks to hand so he tried one, needless to say it was less than useless.

    Dust particles are between 100 and 1000 times the size of a virus and even if you want to introduce aerosol carriers for the virus, the dust paritcles are still at least 10 times the size, especially construction dust.

    The fact is that an N95 mask used properly can be effective in reducing transmission but a massive proportion of the mask shaped objects being worn on faces in the name of covid precautions are doing very little. About the only positive you could say for the cloth masks is that they're less likely to become litter and even though they'll end up in landfill eventually, they'll significantly reduce the amount of disposable masks in landfill.

    That said, I wear a mask where ever required because it's not a big burden on me but I don't want my children to have their development stunted even more than it had been to date by covid restrictions. Masking children will have little benefit and create lots of problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Denny61


    Yes .not good at all.and a researcher has said its the worst he's ever seen...horrific...was the word he used



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Denny61





  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,685 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Egh, the graph shows that Delta is the overwhelming majority of cases. It's the daily cases that are low in the graph prior to the onset of the new variant.

    It's like saying Covid isn't prevalent because cases are in the low hundreds instead of the tens of thousands at the height of their waves. Of the confirmed cases, they're nearly all Delta.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,469 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Literally all your posts are some vaccine misinformation talking point that you must have found on facebook or some other random anti-vax site, you've been shown up for this time after time.

    If you want to talk about children sanely, then actually do that without the misinformation.

    The risk from the disease is much greater than the risk from the virus, agree or disagree, bring facts (the risk/benefit has been posted here multiple times before).

    What does the vaccine have to do with their education other than giving them the chance to be in school rather than out sick with COVID?

    What about their development is under threat? Do other vaccines also put their development under threat?

    What is the correct trial sample for medicine to establish safety? These are industry standard trials with the COVID-19 vaccine trials being larger than normal, but if you say it's too small, point at literature that shows otherwise.

    And whose children are you pretending to be concerned about?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,579 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Ah Jaysus. This rhetoric brings me back to Q2 2020.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Any word on Munster.. they’re in South Africa on tour….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    This is just one shot, literally barely a week ago or just days in most cases. This is not data - real world or otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    We are back to square 1.

    "But with only a handful of recorded cases - three in Botswana, around 53 in South Africa and one in Hong Kong from someone who travelled from South Africa - scientists are hopeful it can be contained."

    There isn't a snowballs chance in hell of it being contained.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Now to force boosters - NPHET want to expand Covid passes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    You can quite clearly see the number of deltas cases was very low prior to the onset of the new variant. It's irrelevant whether it's daily cases or not, delta cases weren't prevalent. Any variant is going to seem to have an 'advantage' if it has no other variant to compete against.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭JTMan



    FT have published a chart shows spread of each variant *relative to other variants in the country at that time*. In each case conditions in the country are fixed, so that’s implicitly controlled for. e.g red line is spread of B.1.1.529 with X restrictions relative to Delta also with X restrictions.

    B.1.1.529 beats Delta using these controlled conditions.




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,685 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    The graph literally shows only Delta was prevalent, and the new variant is outcompeting the Delta variant at a rate we have not seen since the onset of the pandemic and the emergence of variants. It is rapidly replacing the Delta variant. It's concerning. You were making out as if the Delta variant wasn't even prevalent in South Africa when in fact it made up 95% of reported cases there prior to the emergence of the new variant. It's important to clarify that considering we know the Delta variant is pretty transmissible as it is.

    The graph you posted also shows that, with previous variants, there was a substantial period of time where variants co-existed and overlapped. That's not the case with the new variant, the Delta variant is being rapidly replaced and we haven't seen that type of behaviour to date. It all points to the new variant being extremely transmissible and potent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,302 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Posts: 10,049 [Deleted User]


    mRNA vaccines are more easily modified. And Pfizer didn’t develop any mRNA vaccine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    I’m not on Facebook, nice try. You are good at asking pointless questions - you didn’t provide a source to back up your claim re real world data from the US and children with Covid vaccines - how can real world data exist in the US when children have not yet received their two shots there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    It’s so transparent, they know the uptake is going to be low so the screws on the vice need to be turned. Feeling extra hopeless today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Capacity has increased. This time last year capacity was 100,000 tests a week. And that sounded huge.

    Now it's over 200,000 Covid tests A WEEK. From nothing 21 months ago. I don't think you realise the work that goes into constantly trying to do more with less.

    Swabs are processed 24/7. ON TOP of other routine laboratory testing which is only ever increasing with chronic staff shortages and burnout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I mean that's still pitiful. Look at a similar sized country like Denmark and they did 180k PCR tests in a day, and another 160k antigen tests. We're miles off in comparison.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Q498R mutation in B.1.1.529 could lead to a variant with higher infectivity & immune evasion ...




  • Posts: 10,049 [Deleted User]


    I can’t fathom the mindset of someone who exaggerates to a massive degree using emotive terms to “ win the internet”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Unfortunately its probably too late.

    Its already got to Hong Kong. Its just impossible to stop a disease likevacovid as NZ have found out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    My children have never done a test. Or worn a mask. So I don’t feel sorry for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,452 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    What I will say is nothing is definitively known about this variant. The headlines I'm seeing and reading were all the same headlines when MU first came on the scene. Now time will tell what way this one goes. The headlines regarding effectiveness against vaccines are clickbait at the moment, it's an unknown question, it'll take 2-3 weeks to grow in lab and test. MU also was the worst seen yet, will escape vaccines etc, after some investigation that wasn't the case. We've been here time and time again, minks just to name one.

    It also doesn't help that SA has vaccine coverage in the 20% range, that in itself is a failure of both SA for the god awful studies they published on vaccines along with the developed countries and vaccine equality.

    Let's see how this plays out. I wouldn't be surprised to see MHQ rolled out for anyone coming in from SA but there wouldn't be many anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭funkyzeit100


    The Botswana variant, the Mu variant, the Kerrygold variant.


    It isn't unthinkable that we're all going to violently lurch backwards from globalisation and be actual hard-bordered nations again instead of multinational airports.


    Way back in the mists of time, before the mysterious 2000's, there was a reason many countries formed over the course of thousands of years, and one of them (a quite interesting subject) was the rampant spread of disease.


    You reap what you sow.



  • Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So today we have had the EU medical agency approving jabs for 5 year olds, NPHET recommending masks for 9 year olds and up, the EU officially floating the idea that vaccine certs become void after 9 months, and a brand new big scary varient in South Africa.

    A great day for the Covid enthusiast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Literally no data on whether this variant is more lethal? Maybe it’s a watered down version. Might be a good thing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭jackboy


    well if we can delay it until the spring we should be ok until next winter. We will have bought a fair bit of time.

    Thats if it is truly a dangerous variant of course.



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