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Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 - (*** Spoilers***)

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  • #182
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181409#Comment_118181409

    I'll take the ball over Tilly any day



  • #183
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,871 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I can never understand why Nog is loved but Tilly is hated when they are pretty much on the same character development arc.

    This too shall pass.



  • #184
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181513#Comment_118181513

    I wasn't too fond of Nog either but Nog is not nearly the boy genius Tilly is. He was a smart guy and in typical stupid Trek fashion got to go to way too many senior meetings for a cadet but Tilly takes it to a whole other level.

    Tilly's true comparison is not Nog by a long shot. It's the much derided and hated Wesley.

    Also and this isn't the fault of Tilly the character or actor but a huge amount of the young adult soap opera mushy stuff that many hate about Discovery seems to involve her in some way



  • #185
    Evade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Evade


    Maybe if we saw how hard Tilly's struggle just to get into Starfleet Academy was, or the work she had to do there while not getting everything she wanted, or her eventually turning into a competent officer despite some setbacks instead of she's just a super genius so she gets to do everything.

    The worst thing about STD is each of the characters could have been good given their one paragraph descriptions but how they were executed was just terrible.



  • #186
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181628#Comment_118181628

    I mostly agree with what you said but I zoned out as soon as you started using that stupid STD acronym.

    It's the go to for people who say "woke" in all their rants



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  • #187
    Evade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Evade


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181769#Comment_118181769

    It's the only acronym I've ever used. It's funny to me no one pointed out the obvious acronym at any point.

    Now I think I'll resume writing my original sci fi epic Hyperspeed: Interstellar Voyages.



  • #188
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181949#Comment_118181949

    Good luck with your book I bet it will knock em dead when it comes out.

    I thought I was funny using DIC for a while but I then realized everyone else using DIC or STD on Trek sites was an "anti woke" whinge bag. I'm not accusing you of that by the way I just hate the acronym



  • #189
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Stupid move. Not signing up to another service.

    Looks like it will be the auld captains black hat for me

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #190
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Huh. So I was wondering how I'd feel the day after the first episode came out: if after my big-boy talk that I was done with the show, would I get itchy palms and scuttle off to the high seas. Nope. Not trying to be smug or anything, just ... feels really odd that there's technically new Trek out, and I'm like 🤷‍♂️



  • #191
    Rawr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭Rawr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190311#Comment_118190311

    I'm in a very similar boat, if not an identical one.

    I did give the episode 1 thread a read, and although people mention it not being horrible...I feel myself to still be unmotivated. Especially when it looks like they might be doing the same bait & switch of hinting that the show will tone down on the Michael-centric stuff...and then probably just double-down on it again. But beyond that I just lack any drive at all to set sail and watch this. Even if it were still on Netflix, I think I might still feel the same.

    I'll be giving Picard a watch when it comes, and you know well I'll be all over Lower Decks (with my RITOS t-shirt)...but Discovery just doesn't feel like it's worth it anymore...and I'm never one for "hate-watching" anything.



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  • #192
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190379#Comment_118190379

    I'm also looking at stuff coming in the next few weeks, and it all just seems more interesting than going to the Burnham Well again: Lost in Space; Cowboy Bepop; Wheel of Time; The Witcher; The Expanse; the Boba-Fett spin-off; Hawkeye. Some of it more shiny and new than others. None of it Trek but it's just such a shame Discovery has become a big fat "meh".

    As to Picard, I'm on the fence. It's another show that doesn't quite know what it wants to be. And yeah, I don't do Hate Watches anymore; life's too short to waste it on shít TV - especially when we're surrounded by so much quality these days. We're very spoilt really.



  • #193
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I watched it. It's not a bad episode but it is still full of Bayham effects and attempted deep introspection of Burnham so I don't think it's going to sway anyone who already hates it or grab any new fans. The show is what it is now.

    There are also a couple of plot points that like always in Discovery look geared up to be part of the huge late season off the wall sht show that Discovery always does



  • #194
    TheIrishGrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Well, that was about as expected. Everyone all chirpy and smiley and giving doe-eyes/worshiping at Burnham.



  • #195
    Brian CivilEng
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Brian CivilEng


    I watched the episode (my cousin in New York taped it for me, very nice of him). In fairness, it was the first episode of season 4. Those who made it this far have accepted this is a show about a single person who is practically perfect in every way. Why would they change it now?

    Accepting that Discovery is allowed to be Discovery the episode wasn't too bad. A perfectly cromulent episode of Star Trek: Ah Michael Burnham is Great.



  • #196
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118192504#Comment_118192504

    The bits that were just solve space problem with space stuff was good. But the 2 side trips to other planets were boring especially the Pandora scene



  • #197
    ilovesmybrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118192504#Comment_118192504

    Jesus you almost got the VHS tape as fast as I got it from my cousin in New York! What an age to be alive!



  • #198
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193079#Comment_118193079

    I just flew to America watched it in the Duty Free bar and came home



  • #199
    ilovesmybrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193216#Comment_118193216
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLpGs0CJCbw




  • #200
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,499 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Was just thinking, by the time this comes here, the season should be finished. So it wouldn't be as bad if they released all episodes at once. But I remember Disney+ launched here after Mando season 1 finished and they proceeded to do weekly episodes.



  • #201
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118196557#Comment_118196557

    I have all my one hour stop over flights booked so I'll have seen it all by then.

    Big risk booking them in advance given the shty reputation that the second half of every DIS season is



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  • #202
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,871 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Clearly the Aer Lingus marketing team don't know about DIS

    Screenshot_20211121-160533.png


    This too shall pass.



  • #203
    peteeeed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    https://twitter.com/denofgeek/status/1463540540373409801?s=20

    https://twitter.com/denofgeek/status/1463540540373409801?s=20



  • #204
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I have never heard of "Pluto TV". I'm going to presume it wasn't started by an entrepreneurial cartoon dog. Or former 9th planet with time on its hands.



  • #205
    Evade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Evade


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217071#Comment_118217071

    Apparently ViacomCBS own it so they'll have two streaming services in the UK, and presumably Ireland, next year.



  • #206
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I'm reading Pluto is a free streaming service? If true, it doesn't say much about CBS' belief in the value of Discovery, internationally. Maybe they saw something in the stats from Netflix (assuming they're allowed see 'em)



  • #207
    Dr Bob
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217010#Comment_118217010

    Not available in Ireland though as far as I can see .



  • #208
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217150#Comment_118217150

    Or the ads it will bombard you with are worth as much as subscriptions. One thing I really love about paying for streaming is the never having to think about tracker mortgages.



  • #209
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,871 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217295#Comment_118217295

    Neither is BBC iplayer, but my Norton 360 gives me VPN so I get to watch F1 with BBC commentary instead of Sky.

    This could actually hurt Paramount+ in the US if it becomes widespread news that the show is free in the UK.

    This too shall pass.



  • #210
    Dr Bob
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217647#Comment_118217647

    Having to use a VPN to watch a region locked 'free' show is pretty much piracy with extra steps though, so I dont know if it will make that much difference .

    But yeah they really really messed up with this whole situation.



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  • #211
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,945 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217647#Comment_118217647

    Europe has always had way more free TV than the US. Free to air over there is pretty much Sesame St. + nothing



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