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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭ wally79

    Those fixes only help a portion of the user base. I think Niamh mentioned previously that the majority are mobile users so any fixes should probably be prioritised there.

    I use the mobile site almost exclusively and it isn’t too bad for my usage style. It needs an improved search and the same ability to view thanks but for me it’s usable

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,462 ✭✭✭✭ Hotblack Desiato

    Basically, Vanilla sucks and there's only so much they can do to tidy around the rough edges.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭ StupidLikeAFox

    Some threads I've read are still showing as unread

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,942 ✭✭✭✭ HeidiHeidi

    Are they by any chance ones that were started pre-migration, that you've only clicked into fairly recently?

    That's a bug that a few of us have noticed and reported previously.

  • Registered Users Posts: 35,636 ✭✭✭✭ ohnonotgmail

    nothing stopping somebody doing something similar for the mobile version. waiting for to do something is optimistic at best.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭ mossie

    It's looking that way. Absolutely no change now for weeks.

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,911 ✭✭✭✭ _Kaiser_

    I figure they've either blown way past the budget for the year trying to make the site even semi-usable again, or they're out of support credits (or whatever cover they have) with Vanilla.

    Do Boards publish accounts? I reckon this year's will be interesting reading. I wonder will Odhran be doing a cost-benefit analysis between the last 4/5 months (downtime, lost revenue and I assume lost advertisers and business customers) and what they were paying to maintain the "old" site.

  • Registered Users Posts: 35,636 ✭✭✭✭ ohnonotgmail

    every company publishes accounts. you just need to be willing to pay to get a copy of them.

    Post edited by ohnonotgmail on

  • Employee Posts: 12,239 ✭✭✭✭✭ Niamh Community Manager

    The issue with threads remaining bold after being read has been looked into and a fix is being looked at. I'm afraid I don't know when the fix will be live though yet.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,498 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18

    As I said on another thread, the idea that a site which had been losing traffic, no plan for growth and no successful business innovation since adverts is going to invest tens, if not hundreds of thousands in custom code is laughable. The advanced vbulletin functionality is gone, its and it's not coming back. The site is what it is now, minor tweaks and bug fixes aside.

    At this point it's get used to it or move on.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,761 ✭✭✭ klopparama

    Why don’t the main posters, that understand the problem and what the site should be, set up a new site ?

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,790 ✭✭✭✭ Ads by Google

    Another site was set up, and other people talked about a new one.

    Personally, I don't have much interest. What makes is not the technology but the long-term users and mods etc. Vanilla might have cut its legs off, but it still has more going for it than a shiny new site with no userbase.

    What we want is to actually contribute to the site. To be the developers and have it on our githubs. is squandering that with this setup that means they don't have the codebase.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,498 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18

    Hosting I'm sure is a big ongoing expense but that is directly proportional to traffic, which and revenue is too. Custom code is a large capital expense that must be paid for whether it's 1 user or a million. When you make capital investment, you have to have a plan for growth, which we don't have here. What's the draw, the USP, over other online time sinks?

    Why would anyone put money into this site to bring back old features which didn't drive growth before the migration?

    As for getting a collaboration going with the community, to be honest I don't see that working. What's the motivation to create custom code for free for a for-profit site? Where would the oversight be? The site ownership structure would need to change to a charity/trust tbh.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,498 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18

    Indeed it won't happen. The major difference with moderation is that anyone can do it - it's not a particular skill set, and people mostly mod topics that they have a personal interest in - though I do wonder why they work for free, but they must get something out of it. In order to get code, you'd have to appeal to a very small subset of users to get them on board to voluntarily do in their spare time to do what they get paid for. You might do it for a charity, or a sports club, but a for profit company that made a balls of a migration?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭ JayRoc

    Afaik all mods worked for nothing, and always have done, even when the site became a business, am I misinformed? So no reason to assume folks wouldn't work for nothing to create code for a site they liked. ( Lots of people have already donated their time since the downgrade haven't they?)

    Probably not this one, now, though, let's be honest! 😁

  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 42,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭ muffler

    Some of us are sticking around to help in whatever way we can despite all the moaners and trolls.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,498 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18

    I suppose maybe. A lot of the issues, particularly the moderation ones would require work to the backend and I simply do not see a) the current workings being made available and b) implementation of code of an unknown source being implemented by the site.

    Have we been told what the priority list is and what is currently being progressed? I would bet it's really all UI and relatively easy stuff.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,698 ✭✭✭✭ MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

    How long has this turd been released now, 4 or 5 months?

    Its still only barely better than the day one release..whats going on. Its a total **** of a **** something.

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,199 ✭✭✭✭ Esel

    I think Vanilla is primarily aimed at companies who want a (basic) forum for customer questions etc. rather than companies which are forum-only sites.

    Did Boards even look at other platforms such as Xenforo or Discourse?

    Not your ornery onager

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,141 ✭✭✭✭ fritzelly

    Thats exactly how it is, only had to look at some of the sites using it

  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 42,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭ muffler

    Im not sure why you reference attitude when I am stating facts. You cant deny that the new site has attracted trolls and in many of the feedback threads I see the moaning and complaining from the same people yet most of them dont have anything positive to offer.

    However I agree with most of what you say as I have made my feelings known both here and in private. Vanilla is a disaster as far as I'm concerned and while some improvements have been carried out there is still a serious amount of sh1t to be sorted out. Im one of the few mods speaking out publicly on this matter but (and probably against my better judgement) Im sticking it out for the time being. But if things dont improve in the near future then I'll be gone from here.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,498 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18

    That's a very clear outline of the kind way things could be implemented. I wonder if the powers that be have put similar thought and effort into how things could be fixed.

    Of the things that you identify that could be fixed, I suspect the categorisation of reported posts is most likely, assuming that the thread they are located on is also identified in some way.

    Have we any idea of the features current being worked on? I get the feeling that users and moderators are being strung along here, and that there will be no significant features added to the current site.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭ leffesem

    So any update on how to selectively quote a post please.. Have been searching this thread last half hour, and am still no closer in understanding how it's done.. I've seen plenty of quoted posts with just parts of them selected, so it must be possible.. Thanks

    "there aint no forgettin" - the outlaw Josey Wales

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,199 ✭✭✭✭ Esel

    Copy the part of the post you want to respond to, click Quote, then paste into the Comment box, highlight it there and format to a quote.

    Not your ornery onager

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭ leffesem

    Thanks, but how do I copy the part of the post? I've tried clicking and dragging on part of your post, and then clicked quote, but can't find a paste option when I right click - paste is not in bold, so that option is not available.. maybe there's another way of copying and pasting that I am unaware of 😕

    "there aint no forgettin" - the outlaw Josey Wales

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