Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

A short sharp level 5 is needed until we get a good lash of boosters out. Taking the emotion out of it, we all know that's what's needed.

oh come on

no-one is excited about these measures, however a lot can see the need and sense behind them. Protecting hospitals and ensuring they can continue to operate is more important than staying past 12 in a pub.

As for a 'major breach'? you don't have a right to be allowed into a premises of any kind, the imposition of a vaccine cert to do so is far from a breach of human rights.

Wearing a mask? common-place around the world, also not a breach of human rights

Our whole private health insurance market is geared to not do that. We're community rated so you could be an obese 60 year old chain smoking alcoholic and pay the same as a healthy 20 year old.

You don't have a right to be allowed in...but it's not the owner of the premises who is barring you.

These "private" businesses are being prevented from trading with healthy people who haven't taken a pharmaceutical product, which is produced by a different "private" company.

Without Quantitative Easing, this centralised command economy (that's what it is, even if they don't call it that) would collapse.

The 2020 herd immunity narrative is long changed due to: new variants, vaccines not preventing transmission or infection adequately, vaccines not near protective enough with regard to hospitalisation to prevent overcrowding, and waning. 100+% vaccination would not make a difference to the issue we're currently facing.

Eh yes you do have rights, lol. Companies are taken to court every week for kicking people out in contravention of the law and denying this right. You don't have a right to be served alcohol if you're underage, which is a separate law.

I’ve no clue who she is and it sounds like I’ve been blessed to not know who she is.

@ACitizenErased my recollection is you’re someone who has their head around the testing figures and daily numbers. I don’t know if you know off hand but did the last models of number of cases a couple of months ago come anywhere close to the worst case scenario ? I’m just curious.

As far as I know the death figures didn't come anywhere close and the case figures were close but across a way longer timeframe

I'd be inclined to agree with you (can't believe I just wrote that) - I'd be happy to try a two week circuit breaker - full lockdown only essential shopping working, all pubs and restaurants closed etc. BUT we would never exit the other side of it - we only do 5 month half hearted lockdowns with a painfully slow exit here in Ireland - getting buy-in for a proper circuit breaker would be next to impossible.

I have no faith left in anyone "in charge" anymore - it's clear to me they haven't a balls notion of what they're doing after 18 months - I could forgive the mistakes at first. But now all I'm hearing is excuses and waffle and nonsense.

I did what was asked of me, I stayed home, I didn't see anyone, I wore my mask, took my two jabs. I've washed, sanitised and scrubbed everything. But I'm fatigued, tired, mentally drained and frankly pee'd off at this stage. I gave up smoking and cut down on my drinking this year - to give myself a fighting chance should the worst happen.

I'll probably get a booster if it's offered - I'm 47, a little overweight - seems a bit pointless to go out of my way to avoid my "3rd shot" but if I get Covid before that time comes I'll decline a booster - either/or for me in that regard.

I've really struggled the past couple of days. We seemed so close to the end game. But now in the space of a few short weeks it seems so bleak and like there's no end in sight.

So I'm willing to give anything a try - however extreme it sounds. Because honestly this wishy washy parochial judgemental limbo we're living in is a MASSIVE crock and not something I wish to endure for very much longer. It's a sickness far worse than any virus !!

So will that be 6G?

People are actively asking for lockdowns in this country now. What happens when this circuit breaker lockdown as you call it is over ? We start the same dumb process again. Cases rise when we open rinse repeat . Can you not see at this stage after all our lockdowns all we are doing is constantly kicking the can down the road . It’s the definition of madness and stupidity . In 20 months the best our lauded health officials have is wear a mask and social distance . Oh and wash your hands for an airborne virus . If that fails run indoors and lockdown . A toddler could come up with that ffs .