All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

Yet again you go so far off topic with your deflections that you enter the stratosphere.

You've completely run out of ideas to validate a conspiracy you can't detail, you can't even make up stuff, so now you are grasping into the past at unrelated events. Even that trips you up, we've had pandemics in the past, in 1918 people wore masks, and they stopped afterwards.

The question I asked you has been put to several conspiracy theorists here, it challenges them to react in a logical way to a logical problem. Unsurprisingly, they dodge, deflect or don't address that question because they know it exposes their beliefs. A liar protecting their lie.

Nearing 300 pages, all measures have not been permanent, so that notion is completely debunked

Now we're into the salvage phase: "I absolutely believe some measures might or might not be permanent, but I can't explain to anyone why, and there's also a conspiracy, but I can't explain that either"

Coming soon: "I saw someone with a mask on in the shop yesterday" and "it was all a test-run"

Have conspiracy theorists ever made claims and predictions about a crisis or emergency that turned out to be wrong?

I agree about the risk/reward equation, and that it's wise to be cautious. However from what I've seen this past 18 mths the risk from Covid seems to be much greater than the risk from the vaccine. As we have to assume that almost everyone will get the virus at some stage, as we open up, the vaccine seems to be a safer bet, and especially as we've already seen billions of people vaccinated world wide and the dire prophesies from some anti-vaccine people have not come to pass.

Anyway, here is what I said ...

To which you replied ...

The data is not skewed, and you can see that in the picture below if you study it (top graph is from here, and bottom one from here, and I've squished the bottom one so week 28 on both are the same). Can you see the following ...

• 100% of 70s, and over 80s, fully vaccinated before 1st July.
• 90% of 50s and 60s fully vaccinated by mid July
• 85% of 40s fully vaccinated by early Aug, 75% of 30s & 20s by late Aug.
• We already saw that 64% of people admitted 26th June - 31st Oct were not fully vaccinated, so 6.5 people in every 10 were not fully vaccinated.
• Of the 400 people admitted to ICU in that time, 349 were over 35 yrs old, so the vast bulk of the admissions (from beg of Aug) were at a time when 80% of those admitted were fully vaccinated, and 20% (2 out of 10) not vaccinated.
• So we can then say that at a time when 2 out of 10 people in the population were not vaccinated, 6.5 out of 10 being admitted to ICU were not vaccinated, so the risk of unvaccinated ending up in ICU is at least 3 times that of the vaccinated
• If this was mirrored in the hospitalisation rates that can you see that the 10% unvaccinated would likely make up a minimum of 30% of hospitalisations, and perhaps much higher!! So then try to tell me that the unvaccinated portion of the population is not relevant!! Why do you think we don't have any outbreaks of measles, mumps, or polio, or other diseases children are vaccinated against? The main reason is that nearly 100% of children are vaccinated.

But you're lying. Measures have been lifted.

You are now flip floping again and declaring that Brian was right when he claimed all measures are permenant when only a few weeks ago you were claiming only masks would be permanent.

Either you are very dishonest and you're charging your position this much, or you just have no clue what you're claiming.

Or perhaps both and you're just parroting what conspiracy grifters are telling you.

And yes, it has been nearly 300 pages of you cats dodging, lying and whinging.

If you find it annoying when people point this out, maybe stop whinging about it and stop dodging and lying.

Maybe try answering questions.

Lockdowns were lifted. People are sitting in pubs now. The measures weren't permanent, they've been lifted according to the situation, because they were put in place as a reaction to the virus. However you've decided, for whatever personal reasons, that the measures will be permanent because someone on the internet wrote it, now it's developed into a fanatical delusional belief which you endlessly try to rationalise to yourself. Other posters here live in similar invented worlds, curating irrational beliefs (lies) to comfort themselves to make sense of a world they can't or don't want to understand.

Lol more ridciulous hyperbole and all completely false.

You are trying to invent a narative where you are a victim. To do this, you are trying to appropriate actual victimhood that you have no knowledge of and never actually experienced.

And to do this, you've lied repeatedly and engaged in all manner of dishonest behaviour.

Why? Why go to all this trouble to invent your narrative to pretend to be a second class citizen?

Again, I think it's because you and your fellow conspiracy theorists are play acting as heroic rebels with secret knowledge.

This is very sad, and it's clearly not working as no one is being fooled. Not even your fellow theorists.

Which measures are you refering to? Why are they going to be permanent? Why have you cats kept avoiding this question for 300 pages?

Netherlands has reintroduced lockdown measures for 3 weeks because the virus is surging.

Again, if you were the leader of that country, and there was an infectious disease surging, you would be implementing measures. You know this. You also know that conspiracy theorists would be claiming you were part of some nefarious conspiracy they could never detail.