Cycle infrastructure planned for north Dublin

magicbastarder · 11-10-2021 08:52AM

my understanding was that a programme director is basically a project manager on steroids, it's not something that needs specific and detailed knowledge of the nitty gritty of the work actually being done at the coalface.

De Bhál · 12-10-2021 08:42AM

I drove east along Collins Avenue last night. They have made a lot of progress on the segregated bike lane. Same as the one on Griffith Avenue opposite to Tolka Rovers. Small concrete kerb with wands, dividing the road space.

What surprised me was how narrow the car lane is now. The kerb looks like it will have the added bonus of slowing down traffic.

wheelo01 · 10-11-2021 08:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118146499#Comment_118146499

I just presumed it was the shopping centre one, where is the other one? I just cant picture it in my head.

Seth Brundle · 10-11-2021 10:16PM

On the left here...

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3471449,-6.2660182,3a,75y,335.36h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOsr82dGdeuDvSvZIoavlFw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Peregrine · 11-11-2021 01:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118146499#Comment_118146499

They're buying shorter barriers like Drury Street.

The Jervis Centre car park is above ground level so there's a steep ramp from the street which made it unsuitable.

Murph_D · 12-11-2021 11:46PM

Noticing large bike symbols painted on both sides of road on Fairview Strand in recent days. Anyone know what this actually means, if anything, in terms of road priority?

This road is scheduled to be the detour route to town for most motor traffic when the North Strand cycle lanes are commenced, so maybe that’s related.

Any thoughts? (And apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere).

wheelo01 · 13-11-2021 05:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118159086#Comment_118159086

I've no idea in direct answer to your question, but I came across one of these in the last hour where you turn right from greenhils road onto main street Tallaght, i thought i was after turning onto a cycle only street, but the lights had directed me there.

A little disconcerting that i didn't know what was happening. :p

Seth Brundle · 13-11-2021 07:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118159086#Comment_118159086

I presume that the county council will regard this as another safe cycling piece of infrastructure to add to their list. Box ticked, job done.

hesker · 14-11-2021 01:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118159086#Comment_118159086

These appeared in Cork about a year ago I think, on College Road outside UCC main campus. Presumed they were to alert larger vehicle owners to the presence of significant bicycle traffic

hans aus dtschl · 15-11-2021 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118164548#Comment_118164548

Yeah it means the proposed cycle infrastructure for the area is complete, drive however you want, and we'll draw down some more of that sweet sweet active travel budget, thanks.

TallGlass2 · 15-11-2021 03:55PM

Where do you start with that giant bike, wouldn't be surprised to see a few drunks taking photos with it acting as if there cycling a bike.

hesker · 15-11-2021 05:50PM

Maybe it was copied from the UK

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/no-one-understands-how-baffling-820978.amp

He added the cycle symbol markings have been used to highlight the likely position of cyclists in the carriageway to raise driver awareness, rather than as a “cyclists must go here” marker.

"Where dedicated cycle lanes cannot be provided on the edge of the carriageway (primarily because of available carriageway widths) then there is an acceptance that cyclists in the main prefer to cycle in the middle of the carriageway to ensure they are given at least as much room as a motor vehicle," he said.

Effects · 15-11-2021 06:24PM

Super wide cycle lane, so you can cycle in the middle of it I presume?

Squidgy Black · 15-11-2021 06:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118171118#Comment_118171118

You’d have to cycle in the middle of it anyways, horrible road that’s constantly got cars parked on either side of it

Effects · 15-11-2021 07:29PM

I know it well. I often cycle it, and it's always congested. Pretty much always someone double parked in the cycle lane outside the bookies.

Thelonious Monk · 16-11-2021 08:05AM

I cycle through there regularly, there are cars parked illegally all over the place on both sides and often lots of traffic so it's a bit of a mare for bikes with cars nearly killing you trying to force themselves by you.

In Spain they have those big bike symbols on streets called Cyclocalles, where you have priority as much as a car, and cars are supposed to just stay behind you and not complain.

I don't think this will be clear to Irish motorists though they would probably need better signposting.

Effects · 16-11-2021 08:45AM

I don't think even better signposting would work. There's a mentality that a lot of motorists have that seems impossible to change.

Thelonious Monk · 16-11-2021 08:55AM

Is traffic going to be diverted through that road should the clontarf to amiens st cycle lane ever happen? have we any developments regarding that?

Seth Brundle · 16-11-2021 09:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118173219#Comment_118173219

To be fair, that mentality has been encouraged by the authorities for decades and there has been next to no official attempt to change it.

spurious · 16-11-2021 09:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118159086#Comment_118159086

Cretinous decision. Closing Annesley Bridge Road for 14 months and funnelling ALL cars from the Coast Road, Howth Road and Malahide road through Fairview Strand and Ballybough. Will do nothing but fuel anti-cycle sentiment. What is wrong with cyclists using the already existing infrastructure to get to city centre? Is it a rule that they need to follow the bus routes?

Thelonious Monk · 16-11-2021 09:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118173314#Comment_118173314

lol, it has been an absolute sh*tshow for decades, I went to school in Fairview. The amount of cyclists that go through this route is huge at peak times. Sick to death of anti-progressive people like you holding back these projects, hopefully this goes ahead, but I really doubt it will as car is king in this country.

And f*ck anti cycle sentiment, sick to death of motorists being pandered to.

Seth Brundle · 16-11-2021 09:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118173314#Comment_118173314

While I agree that it will fuel anti-cyclist sentiment, and has already done so, much of this sentiment is based on absolute lies and misinformation.

As for why cyclists travelling in and out of the city don't use the existing infrastructure - what infrastructure? Are you referring to the unsafe infrastructure which involves cyclists having to share space on the road with drivers, many of whom are unwilling to share space with cyclists?

As for cyclists following bus routes, many of them are travelling along the main corridors (as are drivers) into the city centre and a bus lane is obviously safer than a regular traffic lane for obvious reasons.

Squidgy Black · 16-11-2021 10:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118173314#Comment_118173314

The ‘already existing’ infrastructure barely exists. The cycle lane at the park is a joke, and causes nothing but bottlenecks especially around the footbridge, there’s constantly kids and others walking in the lane.

You take the bus lane and you’re almost guaranteed to have some arsehole in a bus or even worse a taxi right up your hole, or trying to squeeze past you because of how narrow the lane is plus the cars half hanging off the path and the parking spots.

It’s a temporary redirection to put some well needed infrastructure upgrades in place, so they can suck it up for a couple of months.

Also, has it been announced that they’re closing off any of the above for 14 months to all car traffic or is it just an assumption you’re making?

Murph_D · 16-11-2021 11:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118173269#Comment_118173269

I think the shared bus and cycle lane through Annesley Bridge and environs will be kept open, so I would assume cyclists can continue to use that route. Most other city-bound traffic is to be diverted to Ballybough Road via Fairview Strand. Construction should have been underway by now ("early 2021" was announced in Summer 2020. No idea what the delay is about.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118173314#Comment_118173314

See above. I don't think Ballybough will be the only alternative, but it certainly will be the one most affected. I assume some motorists wil take other routes, and hopefully a good few will use other means of getting town.

Fairview Strand is a tight spot alright, and doesn't have any cycle lane at the moment - the one at the bookies just begins at the very end of the Strand and continues towards Clontarf. I do think additional signage is necessary to explain the meaning (if any) of these bike symbols.

loyatemu · 16-11-2021 12:03PM

I do think additional signage is necessary to explain the meaning (if any) of these bike symbols.

but they don't have any meaning.

"Watch out for cyclists" - as opposed to what? close your eyes, put your foot down and run them off the road?

magicbastarder · 16-11-2021 12:24PM

we need additional signage to explain the signage?

Murph_D · 23-11-2021 02:50PM

In relation to the North Strand construction start date, I received the following from Dublin City Council:

The construction start date will be communicated as soon as it is available, and details will be provided in relation to the traffic management plan and the construction program.

Residents and businesses who will be directly or indirectly affected by the works will be contacted shortly.

Not very specific, but at least it sounds like it is definitely going ahead, and quite soon.

Effects · 24-11-2021 11:00AM

Is there a link to the plans? I've kind of forgotten what they are doing and for how long.

cgcsb · 25-11-2021 10:56PM

I had already filed this one away with all the other DCC plans that'll never happen like a safe liffey cycle route or a pedestrianised college green. Is there some movement on this?

The big bike symbol means cyclist may adopt a defensive position in the centre of the road to avoid being aggressive overtaken where there is no room for overtaking. But this will only mean more cars beeping and throwing things at you in Ireland.

25-11-2021 11:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118224122#Comment_118224122

The big bike symbol means cyclist may adopt a defensive position in the centre of the road to avoid being aggressive overtaken where there is no room for overtaking.

To be honest that's the only way I cycle now, far safer and I've thick skin

Cycle infrastructure planned for north Dublin

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