Climate change protest

Blocking Dublin with big tractors will achieve f#ck all. If anything it will destroy the last bit of goodwill for farmers. People in Dublin are feeling the same squeezes we are. If you are planning a protest, plan a march. At least other people might join in.

It's all down to the optics. Parking 20 large tractors, in a glorified tractor run, will not get the public on board. Might be better to bring up a box with a lock of gates and a few quiet cattle and baa baa. Make a pen and camp out with them. Having the public come in contact with animals could be a game changer.

Getting the media onside will dictate the narrative that is sold to the public is key.

Wish ye the best of luck if ye avoid the tractor run

There's a lot of complaints on boards about how good the farmer lobby is,, they must be doing something right

Farmers are a weak lobby now, smiths replacement is weak too, Hopefully the govt and Civil service are too sleepy for another while and haven't noticed

Have they set a date

If the general public realised just how close the transport sector is to collapsing they might be able to be inconvenienced for a couple of hours, diseal bill per lorry here is up 3400 euro on average a month compared to last year and rates haven't went up a cent to compensate, its only so long that the vast majority of truckers will stay at it, before pulling the pin

The tipping point is/has been reached in fairness, labour is the huge issue now, even if haulage companies are prepared to operate at a loss getting a driver/drivers is nearly impossible even where very good money is on offer, a very interesting sector to keep a eye on is milk haulage next year, alot of men are retiring from it, cutting back on lorries as can't get drivers, certain co-ops are/where notorious for messing around with rates and generally treating lorry men like dirt, it could all come home to roast next April/may at peak milk

Oh great... massively inconvenience the people you are supposed to represent (rural people/part time farmers) by stopping people commuting home to rural areas. Last time it took me 2 hours extra to get home and i still had the work/checks i do in the evenings to complete. Bunch of clowns.

I'm hard pressed to find what they are actually protesting for? This herd cull that's not actually happening? The reduction of methane that we don't have specific details on? Transport issues caused by Brexit that affects every sector, not just farming? The same goes for the fuel price increases. All it will do is piss off regular commuters and solve nothing. The IFA might get their photo op from it though, so that's something.

First off most of the present increase in diesel is caused by the I crease in oil prices. The government is not going to backtrack on carbon taxes. The truth is the higher producer oil prices go the better it is for farmers.

If we should protest about anything it the fact that once again the cartel is not passing on the increase in beef prices. 70c/kg is the difference between UK and Irish prices. That is 240 euro on a 330 kg carcase.

Ya park a few 100k 2021 tractors at the front of the protestors. Most if the farmers IFA want to save will have nitrates of 200+/HA. Sorry not my problem. Reduction in production is better for the rest of of us less product higher price.

Just as an aside there is moves on the Continent to limit travel of animals to less than eight hours travel time. Live export could come unstuck very fast if that is the case

The big boys who ran with cattle into the factories and tried to break the protests now want us to go to Dublin to support them. These are the upward only convergence crew and lobbied in Europe against the interest of the majority of farmers

Sorry fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me

i think IFA are protesting on sunday 21st NOV I've a funeral that day so can't go 😂😂

Exactly , promotion and celebration of the product we produce would be a far better approach than blocking the m50. in an age where image is everything farmers cant afford to lose the backing of their market.