Climate Bolloxolgy.

What the hell is any of that got to do with what I replied?

1. No one is questioning Irelands past with emigration. Don't know what that has to do with anything but sure if emigration is an issue then the majority of the world needs to work together to keep people in their home country
2. Yer speaking like farmers are some sort of alien entity. They need food too, and need to get food in the shop. you mentioned the discounters specifically, and not supermarkets. Hence my reply. Where would you like farmers to shop out of interest or are you expecting them to only eat what they produce (everyone should do that. Would be great for world population)
3. The IFA campaign to me was a bit stupid alright. I didn't get the reason for it aside from having "dairies" on the bottle when said dairies don't exist. Glanbia do the same sure with Avonmore brand, but it doesn't say dairy so I guess that was OK. Nevertheless, the High Court agreed with the IFA that they weren't defaming the retailers (https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/lidl-fails-to-get-injunction-over-ads-published-by-ifa-1.4584378)

Ah yes where is the economic value in agriculture and food production.

Sure you can create enough jobs with facefook, google, pfizer, Boston Scientific to replace the 4.43% of the workforce directly employed in agri sector.

And sure all those new jobs in places like Greater Dublin, Galway, etc will help keep all those businesses in small towns and villages going.

Or is the grand plan that you do a clearance of rural Ireland ala the Highland Clearances.

Sure then you can enjoy your cycles in your garish outfits out into the countryside without having to be discommoded by the natives living and working there.🙄

There is huge fooking hatred for all things native Irish from some now in Ireland.

Native Irish people must be displaced by foreign imports so that we can become multicultural.

Native Irish industry, ala agri sector, must be displaced so that we can rely solely on foreigners for our food and foreign owned mutlinationals for the crumbs they let fall as they use so to avoid paying taxes on their global income.

Ever think if we stop producing beef and dairy that someone else somewhere else with much less stable grass growth fills that gap.

This isn't a thread on the history of Ireland. Are you trying to get around to a debate you think you can win.

We've a very small amount of manufacturing industry here and that means low emissions. That's one of the reasons that data centres stand out so much - other countries need lots of energy to power steel plants and the like, but that's quite a small element of our energy consumption - we don't make steel at all. Most of the stuff we make money out of has a relatively low energy content.

On the other hand, India is the world's second largest producer of steel. (Just for instance).

In agriculture, we concentrate on livestock - I think folk know the contention that goes with that.

While India is world's second largest producer of veg.

The reason agri produces higher percentage in Ireland is because we have less heavy industry, no fracking, no coal and oil.

So we produce methane and thus a green house gas through the production of food.

This whole thing is a shyteshow where farming and agriculture are being fooking sacrificed so that the real big polluters continue as is.

In 2019 only 10% of greenhouse gas emmissions were methane, i.e. some of which could be hung on animals and farming.

80% were down to CO2.

And what do the powers that be decide to tackle, the thing that produces food for us to eat.

Meanwhile India, China and US continue as normal, creating new coal fired power stations, belching out yet more fumes on cars, etc...

Oh yeah the refrain about China investing heavily in renewables is exactly the same shyte greenwashing that Shell carries out when they do fancy ads about how they are investing 900 million in renewables with absolutely nothing about the billions they are investing in yet more fossil fuels extraction.

It is a fooking joke where the likes of Ireland, and the Irish stooges who want to look good, will decimate their only indigenous industry that produces food for people to supposedly save the world, while yanks swan around in big cars with aircon everywhere, Chinese industry belches out billions more tonnes of coal fired smoke and India does likewise.

Oh and the other shyte continously spewed out about going electric vehicles in a large number of cases is just changing from where the CO2 is emitted, coal/gas electricity generation versus diesel/petrol combustion.

That doesn't mean we can't try reduce the methane emission ,as well as the co² and the Nox - and its coming ..

The government bringing in the straw chopping scheme has put the price of straw up. Doing so is making more turn away from straw bedding and to cubicles. It was always about price why people went with cubicles and slats but it's even moreso now that those still hanging on buying straw are finally having to give in and go for concrete.

Dung heaps are not immune either. You'll lose your carbon in an uncovered dungheap and especially aerated with compost turners to co2 emissions. Only hope you'd have is cover with a sheet of plastic and anaerobically save by making bokashi.

Slurry is not the worst either Teagasc have done a trial and used commercially available Slurry bugs and different treatments. They didn't name the available bugs but there were big differences. Farmers who have used some bugs have reported no smell after treatments (sulphur dioxide and methane).

You haven't a notion of what your on about, whats the commercial value of a 1000 gallons of good quality slurry at the minute, go and google it and see what you come back with....