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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Seriously, this has all the hallmarks of a coordinated misinformation campaign

    I'm very confused, the papers' findings are a coordinated misinformation campaign?

    What is your point?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    I see RTÉ have moved on to blaming people who live in Ireland but don't speak English as their first language.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,791 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    touched a nerve have I ? I would suggest it’s certainly a thing going by my own experiences....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭floorpie


    I have no clue what you're talking about. You snarkily told a person to read the source, they asked you for the source which you wouldn't provide, so I provided it. You can continue to just read Tweets and news articles if you like but if someone wants to read a paper, that's good imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,121 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Some great twisting of the facts there.

    This place has become a cesspit of misinformation.

    "Tánaiste Leo Varadkar has said the Government is considering a dedicated campaign on vaccinations to reach out to communities who do not speak English."



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We have a continued campaign on this site, that is accelerating, in taking snippets from papers and ignoring the context and extrapolating those specific segments to the entirety. All in the knowledge that the majority won’t read the entirety of those papers, or any of the other available information.

    This place is now a cesspit, polluted by talking points from imanutjob.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Another bit of a drop in the nightly hospital numbers tonight.

    470 last night

    487 this morning

    460 as of 8pm tonight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    yeah noticed a good lot were relaeased from hospital yesterday, of course not mentioned on news. next crew up for RTE blame must be the jewish population are they?! they were blamed for everything else over history.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    You need to learn to question these papers rather than swallow the content verbatim, every single time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Nphet presented a deteriorating picture around Covid-19, showing a “significant rise” in the number of people being admitted to hospital and a “sharp increase” in ICU admissions. There were six new admissions to ICU on average every day, as the number in critical care reached 101 with 503 people in hospital with the disease.

    The number of new cases had risen to more than 2,000 cases a day from 1,100 three weeks ago. Dr Ronan Glynn said last week there were 14,000 new cases of Covid-19, the fourth highest weekly number of new cases, with the three previous highs recorded in the third wave in January.

    There were 67 newly-notified deaths in the past week with three to five deaths reported a day on average. A total of 164 deaths have been reported for September and 116 for October.

    Dr Glynn said these were “very significant mortality figures” but would “be significantly higher, unfortunately” as more deaths are notified for this period.

    The above is from the Irish Times today. I read a lot of selective use of data. In terms of broader society, how can Governments/mainstream media criticise the likes of Facebook and anti Vaxx groups and so forth when they also use selective data to make a case…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    You need to learn to see the wood from the trees, rte will be salivating at the prospect of running multi lingual ads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Yes, outrageous the way they factually reported on a programme to reach non vaccinated non English speakers which seems to be supported by representatives of those groups. Also the way the report quotes detailed figures explaining the issue is a further example of the Meeja being, well, outrageous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭floorpie


    You have the issue backwards. You and others are trying to "contextualise" studies by tacking on random findings from newspaper articles, tweets, and so on. A study's findings must stand up to scrutiny in their own right. If you have an issue with a methodology, data, results, then bring it up.

    E.g. if you believe that household transmission findings are wrong because they didn't account for the number of days, check the methodology in that paper alone, and discuss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,913 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Again a load of rubbish in that reply from you Amadan . Nothing grounded in fact just a complete load dumped on me with no post quoted to back this nonsense up .

    You of course hide behind numbers pre vaccine when the infection was primarily most serious in the aged and certainly not in the young previously healthy .And you aggregate the case numbers of those under 44 to try to make your completely incorrect point .

    I am stating a fact that 25% of our present cases in ICU are young people under 40. And unvaccinated , which is the point ..not an aggregate of numbers over a year , but now at this particular moment .

    As to the rest just showing where you are coming from as someone struggling to score points against another poster , i have no idea what the hell you are talking about tbh, so will leave you to your fabrications .

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    See, I see snippets here and seek out the entire source and if it’s misrepresented, there is no way I am not calling that out. And basically that’s what boards.ie Covid forum now is. Deliberate misrepresentation driving an agenda rather that formulation of opinions based honest assessment of available facts, which can lead to completely opposite opinions, but based on honest assessments from different values or priorities.

    Now it’s just dishonesty to drive an agenda with a few exceptions such @seamus @stephenjmcd @growleaves @FintanMcluskey and a few more. The last two who I fundamentally disagree with, but have honestly formed opinions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    Are you outraged at the prospect of RTÉ getting another wedge for running these ads?

    Do you honestly believe these non English speakers even watch RTÉ?

    Do you honestly believe that running ads in their native language will make any difference, do you think they are oblivious to the availability of vaccines?

    How come they have all figured out they need to wear a mask if they no comprende?

    This is pure covid theatre pumping more money down the drain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭floorpie


    What agenda are you talking about exactly? We have almost total vaccination. Who's pushing what?

    You'd do well to go back 4 or 5 months in the thread, look at the "snippets" you debunked, the manner and reasoning by which you debunked them, and recontextualise your callouts now. I'm thinking particularly about your callout of "misinformation" from Moderna where they showed no effectiveness in preventing asymptomatic infection, or your callout of "misinformation" from CDC showing viral loads for Delta.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭robinbird


    A very interesting development. Looking for scapegoats. Suspect just testing the waters to see if such an immigrant blaming strategy might be an option. Foreign language "information" campaign also being rolled out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Immigrants I knew it was them Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Cancer surgeries at risk as hospitals fight another Covid-19 surge


    This is simply not good enough. The numbers in hospitals across Ireland do not justify these kind of horrific cancellations on people who may already have delayed diagnosis. Once again the HSE & Government have failed to provide an adequate health service.

    When Paul Reid, NPHeT & Government said down to make a winter plan….(am actually wondering at this stage did they even do this) - what sort of maximum numbers of Covid patients were discussed as being problematic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,121 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Oh would you grow up? If that's the best you can come up with then the crisis is well and truly over.

    Tiresome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It's hospital numbers and the level of cases in this community, which in turn can push those numbers higher that is at the back of a situation like that. The solution is a better health system but you can't get one of those at a time like this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,615 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    We wouldnt need a better one if consecutive governments hadn't gutted it, and ignored all warnings about the upcoming bed crises



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Bloody immigrants coming here taking our jibs and spreading de Covit.

    Funny how RTE have such a tiny amount of non national presenters come to think of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,953 ✭✭✭User1998


    Why does it matter if the poster is vaccinated? Is that any of your business?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Well they did inherit a pile of dung with a hospital on every corner. A lot of the gutting is down to the ineptitude of hospital managers and the somewhat cynical annual poor mouth around 20th December thus reinforcing the money pit perception of the health service. Beds are less of an issue than the people to staff them and then with people you have vested interests. You also need beds in the right places, especially for the so-called bed blockers. So bad political decisions sure but it is very complicated to fix 50 odds years of a mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Speaking of hospital numbers, down another 6 today to 481.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Apart from those who cannot for whatever reason, medical or otherwise, take the vaccine is it now time to cocoon those who are refusing to take it ?



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