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Shazam: Fury of the Gods

  • 20-04-2021 5:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭


    https://screenrant.com/shazam-2-movie-ending-video-david-f-sandberg/

    Helen Mirren and Lucy Liu have signed on as the DCEU film's antagonists. Mirren will play Hespera, while Liu will portray her sister Kalypso.

    Shazam: Fury of the Gods has seen its release date pushed back multiple times over the past year due to the coronavirus pandemic, and it currently stands slated for June 2023. Despite that two-year-plus gap between now and the movie's release, production is expected to begin next month. Levi has already begun his training.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    The ubiquitous pointless teaser;



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Filming has wrapped on the sequel to the best DC film nobody remembers (or remembered to watch). Maybe it was just low expectations being exceeded, but I am looking forward to seeing Sandberg's follow-up




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Might get some kind of teaser trailer at DC FanDome next month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,286 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    They're doing a sequel to the 1997 Justice League of America film?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Lol, that took a minute.

    Just had a wee check and Shazam made $365 million from a $100 million budget. Not too bad, I'd presume projections weren't that high given the property's obscurity. But the it's DC so who knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Oi! I really liked Shazam! 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,886 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭jo187


    Be interesting see how it goes. In the comics Shazam was originally called Captain Marvel and his family names came from that, like Mary Marvel, captain marvel jnr etc

    Obviously the comics and film have now moved onto calling him Shazam to avoid confusion but still unclear what the family is called in the films and comics.

    I thought I saw Mary called Mary superhero? Maybe that will be the marvel family nicknames now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It looks "bigger" in its scope than the first film. Hopefully the core appeal and themes haven't been lost trying to accommodate all the splashier FX and bombast.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    The "kids" have grown up a lot, the core concept of a boy turning into a ma will soon be moot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I like the look of it. Yeah I thought the kids were grown up a bit too.. but I kinda felt ok about it. Felt good they didn't try to fluff that somehow.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I think this was another CoVid stalled shoot, so like Stranger Things I guess we have another growth spurt.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The director, David F. Sandberg, runs a YouTube channel that's quite interesting as he's often quite candid about his process; his little videos about how he achieved "professional" shoots with DIY solutions back in his bootstrap days have been fun.

    Here, he breaks down his own trailer and its constituent easter eggs. It's quite cool to hear someone down to earth talk about their work quite openly. I hadn't realised the most-excellent video-game some of ye might have heard of - iconoclasts - was made by Sandberg's own brother.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭youngblood


    Whatever you might say about the film, there arent many directors who run such channels and openly discuss their movies in such a frank and honest manner, refreshing and v enjoyable, could watch these all day!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Yeah, that was interesting. I did see him say somewhere before that a scene in the first one in a shopping mall accidentally got the crew. They only discovered later and it would have been very expensive/difficult to re-shoot. So they hastily CGI-d in some shopping bags etc to make them look like shoppers. That's some clever thinking. I love that kind of problem solving. (And I did find the first film very entertaining. Especially the relationship between Billy/Shazam and his foster brother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    A distinctly serious tone in that trailer, which would be at odds with the more comedic edge of the first film. Odd decision given this is a sequel so people would (presumably) know what they're getting into.

    I remember in the first film's thread, there was this user who was really angry and upset with the Shazam promos, picking faults with the canon or tone. Kept posting - a lot - with English that suggested they were far from a native speaker; I do find myself wondering if they ever watched Shazam in the end - and what they made of it. Can't recall the username but it was a busy thread because of them, then they disappeared.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Looks like this might open with an opening weekend around -50% less than the original movie. Maybe superhero fatigue is real?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    More like this has had bugger all promotion and buzz, while Shazam 1 was a modest surprise that exceeded expectations. In that it was, and remains, the least bankable DC property of the current stable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Which (may be) a pity. I really enjoyed the first one. The kids were entertaining (And I typically hate kids in movies. Annoying little toerags 😀) And Zachary Levi has a good comedic touch. I say "Maybe" because this has being sitting on a shelf for quite some time and I know there was some later tweaks to entwine it in the (Now abandoned) DCEU.

    IMHO, there is no doubt there is Superhero fatigue but also, I don't know did the first one actually make a bazillion dollars. I mean obviously it made enough for a sequel but I always thought it was the "small" film that done good due to engaging cast/storyline and good word of mouth (If small means prob 120+ million to make)

    If it's an entertaining film, able to capture the fun of the first and it does poorly, that's a pity.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    For reference, the first film made €366 million off of a 100 mill budget (so says boxofficemojo).

    So not exactly a hit that kicked the doors down here; rather a sleeper hit that did ok but rated well with audiences. But never quite etched itself into the superhero zeitgeist either so a sequel always had a very tough job.

    I like the director though so hope he does well from this; he seems very self-effacing and down to earth, his YouTube channel really revealing and honest.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Didn't the first one have Pierce Brosnan voicing an evil worm in the post credit sting?

    I feel sorry for the kid playing Billy, the trailers for this have been very Levi heavy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Just back from seeing it in the IMAX. That was good a solid build on top of the first film.

    I was laughing a lot and they definitely included some more heart as the undercurrent.

    There's a mid credits scene and an end credits scene. The mid credits for DC, the end credits for Shazam!


    Did she really say...

    Motherf.... on the Unicorn??!?! 😲😂😲🤣


    So then..

    I was jaw dropped when he died. All the feels. I thought they swung Wonder Woman into the story really well. That dream in the middle! 😁 Don't know if that means the door remains open for Gal Gadot but it was nice she turned up.

    I think from only the trailers I saw the best kept secret was the third sister Anthea. Helen Mirren and Lucy Liu did fine. The did the solid DC combat and I wasn't expecting anything too harsh to happen to the kids.

    With that mid-credits and the Peacekeeper Squad showing up.. I think that has Shazam! in the DC future.. at least I'm guessing anyway. I just hope they keep it fun and hearty.

    While Billy had solid heart in this one. I think they kindled Freddys well too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,673 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    seems like its not going to do well financially

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Just seen this today and it's really good. Lots of laughs and some great scenes in it and the cinema was near enough full too and all this on Mother's day.

    It flew buy. I barely noticed the time.


    Very enjoyable.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Looks like this is gonna be a big flop; it is on course to not even match the studio's own projections. On course for 30 mill as against the already pretty limp 35 projection. Yikes. Another dead series walking.




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    The only ones of the remaining pre Gunn films that weren't going to be dead in the water is The Flash I think, and even then that has obvious things against it.

    The first Shazam was a fun curious little film but even then it wasn't a juggernaut at the Box Office. The only thing that can save Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 is crazy word of mouth.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Watched it and only fair. Not as enjoyable as the origin (though Zachary Levi still as good as before) with an over-reliance on CGI and an under resourced script, with some really cringe scenes (Unicorns)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭santana75


    Saw it at the weekend and I thought it was flat from the get go. Which is strange because I thought the first film was great, it really caught me be surprise by how good it was, but this........surely the most blatant case of product placement(Skittles) this side of Brad pitt pausing for a cool refreshing Pepsi just before he battle the undead in World war Z.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Just. It wasn't as bad as I feared. Mirren and Lucy lu did pour on the chese..

    Rachel Zegler, yummy. I've never seen her before..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,673 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Total flop, at around 120m at the moment, so that would be a ceiling of ~150m , not even half the first one plus inflation. Means the studio lost over 100m

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,286 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Finished watching it and I decided to watch the trailers since I didn't watch beforehand due to potential spoilers.

    How is it out of a 2 hour movie they were only able to find content for most of the second trailer from the third act?

    Going by that trailer, the whole movie is about Lucy Liu fighting Shazam while riding a dragon.

    And I've thought it about the comics as well, since the changing from Captain Marvel, but he has the worst possible name, since if anyone asks his name, he can't say it without changing back.

    As for the mid and post credits scenes

    I'd say the mid one was done more recently after the success of Peacemaker and no commitment after.

    For the post, it can probably be ignored now.

    So the barrier between worlds broke for the first time in centuries and

    Anthea decides to go to school?

    And of course the whole movie turned out to be

    One big ad for Skittles.

    I did like it overall but think it's safe to say that one of the main reasons it flopped was due to the studio basically announcing beforehand that the film doesn't matter. But the studio will just see it as people not being interested in Shazam and cancel any potential plans Gunn may have had to continue with this version. Though I'm sure that wasn't happening anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    It was OK. There were some fun bits (Helen Mirren reading out the note). But, once again, it was trying too hard to integrate itself into the rushed DCEU fold. Same colour-scheme/cinematography (Especially near the end). Lightning, practically monochrome, "dark" (Literally and figuratively). Because this was made so long ago (I think they were supposed to release it prior to Covid) it is also difficult to get too caught up in the whole attempts to integrate it into the DCEU as that has just been pretty much reset (again). I know Momoa says he'll be back for more Aquaman in the new movies, but honestly? That all depends on how THAT sequel does and so far, the track record's not looking good.

    It wasn't as funny as the first but that's to be expected. The first one was all about Billy coming to terms with his abilities. That whole "Big" thing. So you couldn't do that again. But the bad guys were very nondescript. I cannot STAND Lucy Liu. I don't know why. But for some reason she really rubs me up the wrong way.

    For me, it smacks a lot of studio interference:

    • "Nonono. We need a way to name drop our other assets... I mean characters/movies" "But we don't know who will be playing those characters in 6 months or if there will even BE a movie for some of these characters"
    • "We need to dial-back the humour. Have enough for the trailer but kids suck"... "He is LITERALLY a kid in a superhero's body. He's exactly like Superman EXCEPT for this fact"
    • "We need it to be darker"... "Like in tone or cinematography?"... "Yes"

    It still had its moments: The kids and parents are still enjoyable (Even if the mother is WAY too hot to be fostering a bust of soon-to-be-college-age kids). The post credit scene is funny. It's just not as funny or fun overall as the first one but through no fault of the director and cast

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    There are very few films I can say disappointed me ... I generally avoid universally panned ones ... but 2 ones rated quite well that I did not fall in love with were Kingsmen: the Secret Service and the first Shazam! ... both films were silly and seemed to overdo the comedy element ... some genres are not meant to be mixed unless the writer/director/etc know what they're doing and comedy mixed with secret service or superhero films are examples ... Kingsmen reminded me of that stupid 1967 version of Casino Royale .... Shazam! brought me back to the 1980s superhero sendup sketch by Morecombe and Wise? or whoever it was doing the Phantom Raspberry Blower ... for that reason I did not go see the 2nd Shazam! From what I read .... I didn't miss much .... if anything it is worse than the first one ...

    Superhero films are overdone ... ones like Batman, Wonderwoman and Superman is what DC should focus on ... most others are poor ... and when we are reviving weak uninteresting ones like a child who turns into a grown man enough said ... I was expecting Shazam! because of the title to be more a type of mythical ancient Persian type tale ... instead it was about a silly schoolkid .... Black Adam is what got me interested and that was while not perfect a much better film ...



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