Should we in Ireland be concerned about Jihad?

It’s not a peaceful religion by any stretch of the imagination. The more immigrants we take from Muslim majority countries the higher the chance will go up.

When was the last time you saw a Christian blow up a stadium full of kids in the name of Jesus.

Yawn.

The crusades, Salem witch trials and the Spanish inquisition say differently. It's happened throughout history where a minority of any religion will twist the words of their holy books to suit thier narratives.

I'm not excusing the actions of any perpetrators of these horrible crimes I'm just pointing out that some people are easily led by people who will coerce them.into doing these things.

Christian militias committed shocking atrocities in refugee camps (Shatila and Sabra) killing around about 2000 .

Yawn.

Mai lai massacre anyone?

When was the last time you saw a Muslim do that? If it’s something that was happening regularly, I’d agree there might be something to be concerned about, but of the 2Bn Muslims there are in the world, and one fcukwit takes a notion to blow up a stadium full of kids? That’s not the responsibility of a religion, it’s the responsibility of that one fcukwit.

Think about it like the way people always look to rationalise the behaviour of fcukwits who do that ****. It’s always attributed to the thing which they find objectionable, whether it’s video nasties, Catholicism, ill mental health, etc, and Islam is just another excuse that’s as handy as any. Hell the latest excuse is lads committing murder and taking people out being attributed to the idea that they get no attention from women! Plenty of people don’t get any attention from women, they don’t go killing anyone!

Should anyone be worried about jihad? What’s the point in worrying about it, not something anyone can ever be prepared for sufficiently that they’re all the time wearing bomb suits or Kevlar vests! Honestly I’d suggest anyone thinking like that should get some perspective rather than preoccupying themselves with being taken out by some fcukwit that gets it into their head that the solution to their problems is to kill other people.

They were hardly going to either.

I don't think we need to worry about the specifics of jihad no more than domestic terrorism or whatever, we just need good laws and good enforcement. If you kill you get caught and punished like any other common killer. Whatever justifications or beliefs of the killer is irrelevant, they are just a person who has given up the right to participate in society, nothing more. I don't care if they claim to be instruments of Allah, Jesus or the devil. They are just mentally ill killers who don't know how to live with the rest of us.

They might try it once and then find out that we are not as forgiving as our neighbours seem to be

we are done with religious wars in this country god help all of them if they start to kill in the name of another religion

"we are not as forgiving as our neighbours"

"god help all of them if they start to kill in the name of another religion"

What do you think would happen if a person were to commit a crime in the name of Islam in Ireland?

I think we are good with the Shiites anyway, sure isn't there a bobby sands road in Tehran?

The island of Ireland is not immune to religious extremist attacks. They can happen anywhere, anytime and by any method.

If we are critically analysing it, the troubles can be classed as being religiously motivated/extremist terrorism. While broadly being about imperialist occupation, it is narrowly focused on sectarian Christianity, Catholic vs Protestant, similar to Sunni vs Shia.

Those who state Ireland is a potential target solely due to the logistic facilitation of US troops and equipment to the Middle East and Asia, are really just displaying anti-US rhetoric due to their focus on global hegemony and geopolitics.

In reality, there are a number of Irish owned and Irish based companies that directly and indirectly facilitate warfare and death on a greater level than the populist narrative of the logistic use of Shannon. We are not a priority because of Shannon, if we were, it would have happened at the peak of the global war on terrorism.

What stops us being a priority target of Islamic extremism from an organised group?

Nothing.

What mitigates against us being a priority target of Islamic extremism from an organised group?

1. Our global military presence is almost exclusively to promote peace and security. We are not engaged in combat operations or unlawful occupation of Muslim countries.

2. Ireland has historical and contemporary experience of imperial occupation. Something that gives us commonality among (former) colonised nations.

3. Our weak security is both a threat and an asset. We are susceptible to various types of asymmetric attacks. Yet, we do not unduly oppress people who reside here, minorities and extremists alike. Holding religious fundamentalist / extremist ideals are not guarantees of the intent of terrorism.

4. While Ireland has been described as a safe haven for "Jihadists", while plausible, see para 3.

5. While we are not a Muslim dominant country, Ireland in general is viewed as a religious country. While we are "unbelievers" in the extreme Islamic context, we (in general) do believe in a God, therefore "worthy" to an extent....as ridiculous as it seems.

6. Ireland has a reputation for supporting the "underdog", highlighted by support for the Palestinian territories vs Israel. That holds weight with the pan-Arab and Muslim communities.

Should we be afraid of "Jihad" directed at Ireland? no....with caveats.

It is unlikely that an organised Jihadist cell has the intent to randomly strike the Irish people, despite being the epitome of "western globalised values".

Caveats: (Islamic terrorist attacks)

1. Attacks can still occur in Ireland, targeteting other nations interests i.e. major tech companies, banks, embassy's and consulates, prominent celebrations.

2. The majority of low capability attacks in Europe have been opportunist and (hastily) disorganised. Using bladed weapons and vehicle rammings.

3. The majority have not been planned, directed, facilitated or conducted by an organised terrorist group. Yet have subsequently been claimed by same.

4. The majority of Islamic extremist attacks in Europe have been from radicalised individuals or recent Muslim converts with a variety of mental health issues.

It is unlikely to occur but if it does, it won't be because of "Jihad" or marauding terrorism like the Bataclan in Paris.....maaaaybe the Manchester Arena style, still its remote.

In this case that middle eastern Muslim should fk off back to the middle east and be angry at the west there, and not while living in the west.

The Northern Ireland situation is completely different and like comparing apples and oranges. The IRA/UVF were not fighting based on their different interpretations of Christianity but on a political issue of the state of N.I. Complete red herring in this conversation.

You must have been asleep missed the last couple of decades so, I suggest you Google what's happened in the M.E and come back to us when you have caught up.

A BBC journalist was asked why they digitized out the cartoon on the front page of the Charlie Hebdo when they were reporting the story.

They replied that they don't want to experience the same fate as the French journalists.

I'm sure journalists in Ireland feel the same way and are scared of it too. Freedom of expression has been taken away by the threat of jihad.