Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Yeah I think they'll have to open to the vaccinated.

Boosters will be hard to get the same level of take up as the initial vaccine campaign. The same novelty, energy and drive isn't there and people will see it less of a necessity, depending on what age groups its given out too. Older groups will be more keen but younger ones in their teens to 40s many will be less bothered.

Vaccine passes being implemented will mean you'll get a high take up again. It's crude but true.

People in work look on the vaccine in a strange way ...they think I have done my bit , now open up , get back to normal ...to be fair this narrative was pushed during the summer ...the responsibilities don't stop with the two jabs ...personal responsibility and basic precautions are still needed ...today I witnessed vaccinated people back from drinking foreign holidays looking down their noses at a hand full of unvaccinated people ...

Oh you edited your post there too I see .

Yeah have explained why in my opinion it wasn't safe then but is now .

Irish Covid ..same as everybody else except we have our' let it rip 'now among those unvaccinated in the last week , ten days , but with more people protected now than others had during the summer.

Let's calm down here and see how this plays out .

Busy in hospitals but not crisis point yet ....

Extend the jabs to the over 60s and high risk , quickly and we might be halving these numbers in 3 to 4 weeks .

The capability of the health system is different in Ireland

Yes agree . Those upset about the right to personal choice of those who don't want to take a vaccine , were the same who were banging on about businesses and hospitality being closed fir so long .

Now those same pubs and nightclubs are calling for the Covid certs to be continued so they can open up as planned .

And they should be opening up .

There doesn't seem to be any urgency in rolling out boosters. They've done a total of 9k since they rolled them out averaging ~1k a day.

Over the same period the age specific incidence rate in 85+ has nearly doubled and soon will pass the 18-24 group. Considering the 75+ are making up about 30% of hospital admissions, maybe the government/niac were too slow rolling them out.

Most people are vaccinated! What is the actual value of "rigidly" enforcing the cert?

Ok odyssey, in your world, it’s me a random boards poster causing the confusion & not our media, politicians and public health representatives. Despite the fact I just quoted the many people I heard over the last few days in the way they used the numbers.

Have you a source that it’s today’s ICU figures being quoted as to the percentage unvaccinated?

The major difference between now and the 22nd will be nightclubs. Arguably the highest risk activity. Mostly young people go to clubs and they also have the lowest vaccine rates. Probably around 60-70%. Just enforce vaccine status in that environment in order for them to open it yet still maintain "caution" for their concerns. It may not be enough for nphet though and we know the govt won't go against them.

I think the argument I’m making is - with 92% of adults vaccinated. Why continue with the cert & segregation of society based on the vaccine. There is huge uptake & Ireland should have dropped these requirements long ago. There’s a certain cohort who won’t ever get it, there are others for medical reasons who cannot. Why not offer antigen tests and even PCR as options for people to enter venues, concerts, etc.

Do you think the remaining 8% should be forced to get it? Why continue with the cert in its current form unless this is the objective? The only other possibly I can see with such high uptake is an Israel scenario where people with two shots are not counted as vaccinated anymore & the cert is used to coerce people to get a third. Varadkar is on record today talking about ‘an extensive booster programme’ - this is a nightmare scenario and will actually damage uptake not help it. People will wonder what’s the point if so soon after their second, they’re been made to take a third off label and with no EMA approval.

You do need a vaccine passport to enter outdoor matches and events in Scotland. My father can't go to the Celtic game this weekend as he was vaccinated here in Ireland not the UK.