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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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#15782 14-10-2021 01:22PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118018971#Comment_118018971

Someone may have been admitted to ICU and then tested.

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#15783 14-10-2021 01:24PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019097#Comment_118019097

Exactly.
The days of blunt and direct lockdowns are gone.
Instead it is all about the far more nasty and insidious "restrictions". Passports, limits on people, directions about where and when to work, how to travel, what you can do in your spare time.
Whats happening now is far nastier than the lockdowns and whats worse is that far too many clappy seals are cheering it all the way.

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#15784 14-10-2021 01:48PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019111#Comment_118019111

Seems rational to me.
But he said the government was reluctant to move away from the reopening plan.
Unless you're talking about
Asked if there would be a major return of workers next week following last month’s gradual reopening of offices, Donohoe said that was “a little less likely”
But a major return was never on the cards
After 22 October 2021, the requirement to work from home will be removed. Workers can return to physical attendance in the workplace on a phased and cautious basis.

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#15785 14-10-2021 01:52PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019286#Comment_118019286

If there is one thing we have learned, its that actual facts have no place in public discourse

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#15786 14-10-2021 01:53PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019315#Comment_118019315

And that reading past the headline is a dying art.

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#15787 14-10-2021 01:58PM
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Leaving the house with symptoms of Covid-19 should be seen in the same socially unacceptable light as drink driving, Prof Philip Nolan of Nphet has said.
It is “dangerous” to leave the house with flu-like symptoms and people need to err on the side of caution, the head of Nphet’s modelling advisory group said.
“Leaving your home with Covid-like or flu-like symptoms has to become socially unacceptable in the same way that drink driving has become socially unacceptable. It is dangerous now for people to mix if one of them has any kind of symptoms and we really need to err on the side of caution here and we’re better off staying at home, if you have anything that suggests you have this disease.
“You could infect that unvaccinated person, the one-in-ten, potentially, in your workplace even though you’re vaccinated, if you feel sick with this,” Prof Nolan said on RTÉ’s Today with Claire Byrne.

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#15788 14-10-2021 02:03PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019409#Comment_118019409

Yep but his work mate Dr Tony gave the government sub committee a very 'serious' presentation yesterday

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#15789 14-10-2021 02:05PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019425#Comment_118019425

No he didn't, another thing you've made up.

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#15790 14-10-2021 02:07PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019437#Comment_118019437

Well it was a CMO but just the deputy! Poster may not have been aware that the CMO is not back until Monday.

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#15791 14-10-2021 02:08PM
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Very very dangerous wording by Leo!! So it’s basically everyone’s fault that we can’t go ahead next week if Nphet say so! What a plank of a man
https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1448620933393039362?s=21

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#15792 14-10-2021 02:09PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019459#Comment_118019459

He was trying to get a dig in and didn't do the most basic research, I'm not even surprised.

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#15793 14-10-2021 02:11PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019380#Comment_118019380

Yeah, I've said that before, and I've no issue with it. Going out in public when you're sick, coughing spluttering at your desk in work, sitting in the pub while you're clearly dying from a dose, should all be very unacceptable. Employers who insist you come in should be vilified, people who shrug it off seen as idiots.
But there is more to it than just "shun sick people". The social supports need to be there; mandatory sick pay, more availability of GPs, access to short-term childcare, etc etc. It's all well and good to say, "Stay at home when you're sick" when that's something anyone can do. But there are plenty of people who can't just fire off a text to their boss saying, "Not feeling well, won't be in", pull up the covers and stay put. Many people who still have to get up out of bed and get **** done one way or another.

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#15794 14-10-2021 02:13PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019479#Comment_118019479

What a twit
Does he want witchhunts

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#15795 14-10-2021 02:13PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019479#Comment_118019479

No, he's basically saying, "If we can't go ahead next week, then blame the unvaccinated, it's their fault.
He's not entirely wrong. The unvaccinated can get fucked at this stage one way or another.

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Based on the comments and article's we've seen over the last 24 hours and the experiences we've had over the last 18 months, it seems almost inevitable now that 22nd October is not going to fully go ahead. How bad things will be probably depends on how the hospitals are looking early next week.
Sadly, we've seen this kind of kite flying again and again over the last 18 months.
It will get leaked bit by bit until MM comes down the stairs and starts waffling on about great progress and meaningful Christmas etc

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#15797 14-10-2021 02:13PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019380#Comment_118019380

How is it dangerous if you go for a walk in the park or a drive if you have a sniffle.

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#15798 14-10-2021 02:13PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019339#Comment_118019339

Asked if there would be a major return of workers next week following last month’s gradual reopening of offices, Donohoe said that was “a little less likely
It is possible that some of the restrictions that are due to be lifted may not be, of course that’s possible. We expected the figures would increase, the question is whether they are increasing to a level that means we have to reevaluate,” Foreign Minister Simon Coveney told the Newstalk radio station.
Well able to read past the headline,you said absolutely no rational person was thinking about or talking about a row back in the lifting of restrictions past the 22nd. 4 politicians alone,MM,Leo,Paschal and Coveney have come out in the last 24 hours and said they will have to reevaluate the situation before they give the go ahead for the opening on the 22nd. So you are as usual spouting complete lies

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#15799 14-10-2021 02:23PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019525#Comment_118019525

They can go get fûcked but it can’t be the stick that they beat the rest with!!

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#15800 14-10-2021 02:25PM
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Didn't David Cullane ask NPHET a few weeks back if there was danger of them not recommending the lifting of restrictions and they have the usual waffle excuse

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019525#Comment_118019525

All well and good with this get fcked bravado message, but how does that help when the majority will be made to suffer because of a small minority?
The anti vaxxers aren’t going to magically turn around and get vaxxed because they’re being told it’s their fault. If anything, it’ll harden them and make them say “told you so”.
Using the unvaxxed as a way to continue to restrict the general population is gaslighting, manipulation, and irresponsible at best. I’d go further and say it’s dangerous and won’t lead to good results.

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#15802 14-10-2021 02:41PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019479#Comment_118019479

That's what they want next, the Italian model of " No jab no job " you can see it a mile off
Massive national strikes planned for Friday when it starts, every port in the Country is expected to be blockaded. Will be absolute chaos

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#15803 14-10-2021 02:42PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118018743#Comment_118018743

Well, when we had it - the HSE advice was two weeks after date of testing positive.

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#15804 14-10-2021 02:43PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019799#Comment_118019799

Good to see. People are far too passive here in Ireland though

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019380#Comment_118019380

If you sneeze should you stay under the bedcovers.
where are we going with this.

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#15806 14-10-2021 02:43PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019525#Comment_118019525

Yes.
Feel the hate.
Let it flow through you.
Mmmmm.

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#15807 14-10-2021 02:44PM
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A classic boards covid meltdown. Haven’t seen one of these in a few months. Surely if Oct 22 is pushed back, that must be Christmas cancelled for 2021.

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#15808 14-10-2021 02:49PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019813#Comment_118019813

Trieste port is very important to lots of countries. Honestly i can see revolutions coming soon you know.

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019380#Comment_118019380

Why is he saying you could infect the unvacinated person, we know now the vaccines dont stop you passing covid on so you could infect vaccinated people too.
we have always accepted herd immunity with vaccines, we dont have everyone vaccinated against measles and measles is very transmissable and dangerous.
The level of anger being stirred up against the unvaccinated is unreal. Would most of these people have caught covid anyway and surely natural immunity is better than vaccines that seem to be wearing off already.
NEPHET need to be told to step away from the media, whats going on is ridiculous, it looks like they are leaving the Government with no lee way, what is their endgame here, we are not getting rid of covid, the vaccines are wearing off, some people are so old vaccines dont offer any protection, is the plan to vaccinate everyone every six months for the rest of their lives, do we vaccinate every child too, where do we find the money for this.

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#15810 14-10-2021 02:54PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019859#Comment_118019859

Not in Ireland you won't. We'll take what's being handed out here.

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#15811 14-10-2021 02:55PM
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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118019525#Comment_118019525

You have been played - that is the exact reaction they want. Don't blame the government, dont blame NPHET, dont blame the HSE or the pathetic healthcare system in this country, or the high levels of hospital acquired infections, no.. blame the <10% of adults who arent vaccinated, most of whom are under 30 and at minimal risk of hospitalisation! Those bloody bastards eh!
The reason they get away with postponing reopenings is because people like Seamus are all too happy to accept whatever excuse they come out with - the latest being the anti vaxxers are collapsing the health service or some such

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