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  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭coffeeandlaw


    is anyone focusing on any specific charitable trust ie poverty/religion/education? is anyone in particular due a run?



  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭BigSprogs


    It's definitely possible. If you've got a few 12/20s and 13/20s in the other questions it doesn't be long boosting you up.. For example if your other 4 questions get 12/20 each then you're already at 48% without even doing the last question. Even if you scribble down a bit of waffle for the 5th you'd scrape it!



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 13545327


    How do you think the marks would be allocated for this ? I blitzed fair procedures out of it but didn't answer on Religion because I didn't know anything on it, got about 15-20 cases down for F.P to give you a fair idea of what I did !



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I did the opposite! Wrote everything I knew about Religion but only dawned on FP at the very end and threw in one sentence!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭StabiloLaw


    I passed Constitutional last time with one question talking about a completely wrong topic (but he gave me 8), and I did the case note question with only very minor details on one case and nothing correct on the other. There's hope!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 lawstudent000000000000001


    I discussed the point of religion and equality and the area of presumption of invalidity where someone is said to have been discriminated on basis of religion.

    Hoping he is open to interpretation lol



  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭T.Chunter164


    Was rather painful yes, but I’m a seasoned veteran with these so I know better than to let myself think about how I done. Was convinced on a few last sitting that I’d failed but I was wrong.

    For those who sat any this week or last, what’s done is done - whether a pass or a repeat - no use worrying. To pints tonight 🍺

    (edit: seems I have lost my ability to English after these exams)



  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭lawDani


    Advancement of religion came up last time as far as I remember as part q and the exceptional cats of non char PT so I might focus on benefit to community and education …

    im really struggling and stressing as to what to pin down on …



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭fe1ki5


    Pretty sure the poverty aspect came up last time... Which has me thinking we could be due a PQ to Inc the usual sports association, is it charitable etc. But I'd be stupid to try & predict anything knowing what these exams are like 😂



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  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭FE1new


    Anyone else's brain starting to go nope? I had Constitutional today and can't remember a thing now for equity 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭AA21


    Anyone have condensed notes on illegal contracts?



  • Registered Users Posts: 45 examsfe12021


    EQUITY


    anybody think it would be safe to leave out Anton Pillar?



  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭SamWFE1


    Probably, it's only come up a couple of times. I've a feeling we're gonna get a Mandatory Interlocutory question or a Quia Timet question since Mareva came up last time. That said Anton Pillar is really short with only like 7 or 8 cases so shouldn't take that long to learn, but it's unlikely that it will come up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 fe1555


    Anyone who has done the prep courses for contract and EU, have they given you any predictions for them?



  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭LawLearnin


    Definitely! On a related note, does anyone have any tips for what to do if you just blank during the exam? It's happened to me once where I could remember a load of material in terms of the developments in law but not the actual names of cases, really just froze up and ended up wasting time trying to remember them. Just write down the gist, move on to the next question and try to come back to it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭SamWFE1


    Even if you can't remember the name you should definitely still write down the facts and decision, you're bound to get marks even if you didn't specify the case name. If you have time at the end of the exam you should come back and see if it pops back into your head. I find that the harder you try to remember a case name the more difficult it is actually remembering it so if you come back to it at the end it might come back to you. Another thing I find helpful with remembering case names is to try and find a connection between the facts and the case name. The connection doesn't even have to be law related it could be something completely arbitrary you take from your own life. I find it really useful especially when you need to learn about 300 cases haha.



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭fe1ki5


    Anyone also chancing their arm and not learning the departure from campus oil? 🙏🏻😅



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭AA21


    Anyone know what is due up for terms? Or what are people focusing more on



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 SFarrepl


    i have briefly looked over them, don’t seem to come up too much do they?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Dancing Obsession


    I learnt only unilateral in only in general terms.



  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭FE1new


    Do you think the following would be enough for Equity tomorrow or should I add anything else? I have failed this exam before so am v v nervous about it.

    Charitable trusts and Cy Pres

    Strong v Bird

    Hastings Bass

    3 certainties

    DMC

    Estoppel

    Undue influence

    Injunctions (qua and manditory)

    Trustees

    Specific Performance and rectification



  • Registered Users Posts: 45 Fe179user


    This happened to me with contract last sitting and I just wrote down the facts of the case and the important principle from it - managed to scrape a pass. I did have one very good answer that I got 14 in which likely saved me but the rest were very poor. Still managed to get 7 and 8s in the answers that I forgot case names as it was clear I knew the facts and decisions in cases and applied that to the question.



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭fe1ki5


    I have pretty much the same.

    The law school prep course believe constructive trusts are due a run but I haven't covered this.

    I did write few notes on Presumed RT's



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 fe1555


    Any chance anyone has the examiner's report for november 20 contract exam please?



  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭StabiloLaw


    Hi all, for contract are we safe to completely leave out proprietary estoppel and only focus on promissory?



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Fe1user5555


    I just have the differences between it and promissory like can be a sword etc and two cases (thorner v major / gillet v holt) just incase



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Fe1user5555


    Anyone else feeling stressed for contract tomorrow



  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭vkfe1




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  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭StabiloLaw


    Super stressed for contract as it's hopefully my last ever FE1 and is probably standing in the way of me starting the Hybrid course in December.

    One tip I got from a tutorial session I did with someone though which I've found helpful when doing past questions- when you go into the exam, write down a shopping list of all the topics you've covered and refer to it after reading every single question. The examiner often mixes topics and has some hidden topics that aren't fully evident at first glance. Looking at each question and asking yourself "Is Estoppel here, is UI here, is Capacity here, is there breach, etc" can help prevent anything being left out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Fe1user5555


    This time tomorrow we’ll be nearly done the exam at least!



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭coffeeandlaw


    Can we print off the contract legislation does anyone know



  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Kkelly97


    Does anyone have today's paper?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 DeeMan1


    My phone started ringing during the exam, anyone know if I should send them an email just to flag it so its not an issue down the line?



  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭bobbyness


    It happens. I doubt it was flagged, and even if it did, you didn't do anything wrong.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭FE1new


    I wouldn't worry this happened to me last round. I just said out loud sorry I forgot to turn that onto silent to the camera. Never heard anything about it and I never emailed them. Passed both exams



  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭lawDani


    Well what’s the general consensus on Equity?

    do the examiners just take 5 questions even where you’ve jotted down words And points in others?

    my undue influence question could have been a lot better so I tried to bump up with attempt marks on others

    LAST HURDLE LADS 🙏 keep going those who have one more nearly there xoxo



  • Registered Users Posts: 24 FE1student2021


    Yes. 100% stressed. I accidentally answered one question wrong today in equity and ended up doing 5 other questions but ran out of time to delete the wrong 6th answer. Has has happened to anyone else? I’m also worried about contract tomorrow too



  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭lawgrad49


    I thought it was an okay paper, fair in the sense certain topics came up that were due a run, but at same time in harsh that they came up in ways no one was predicting, i.e. No QT Injunction, No SP/REC problem Q. The trustees Q was very narrow focus on duty to invest - not the usual clothes shop.

    Also system kicked me out a few times and didn't give me the time back - I would say i lost 10-15 mins in total. I have sat these exams online before, so I know once it kicks you out you get the time back - but for me it took me to a black screen saying "redirecting" this could take 2 mins but in one isntance in took about 5/6 and when i came back in time wasnt the same. Has this happened anyone else?



  • Registered Users Posts: 32 DarthBhfeidir


    Don’t worry. I wrote a bollocks of a paper last March and still passed.

    Focus on the core principles which inevitably turn up in every sitting like offer, acceptance, consideration, estoppel, capacity and intention to contract, contractual terms, misrepresentation and mistake, duress and undue influence, discharge and frustration, remedies and consumer protection.

    We were told to expect illegal contracts last time as it hasn’t had a run in a while. It didn’t come up.

    I did equity this morning. What did everyone think? I thought it was nice, very general questions on injunctions, undue influence and specific performance.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭SamWFE1


    I thought it was a reasonable enough paper. Answered the problem Q on charitable trusts, the Strong v Bird essay, the SP and personal services, the note question and the mandatory interlocutory injunction one. Felt like my Strong v Bird question was fairly short as there are only 6 cases as far as I'm aware. I mentioned Strong v Bird, Re Stewart, Re Wilson and Re Freeland for the first part and Re James and Re Gonin for the second part. I said that the rule might not apply because there might not have been a continuing intention up until death as he left the property for the three of them equally, and said that it would depend on when he made the will, whether it was before he told Patrick he would transfer the lease (where the rule would apply), or whether it was after (where it wouldn't as he wouldn't have had the continuing intention). Would be interested to see if anyone else came to the same conclusion?

    On the charitable trusts question, I said the first bequest was for advancement of education, and that post-grads likely wouldn't be a wide enough class to confer a public benefit. The second bequest I said might fail as it was for changing the law (National Anti Vivisection Society, McGovern), but that it might be saved by S.2 if it is made to a charity which where a political purpose is directly related to their charitable status. The final one I said would probably fail as it was contingent on the relationship with the donor, and that S.3 of the 2009 Act prevents this, but there has been no cases on poor relations and the English jurisprudence might be persuasive (AG v Charity Commission). On the last one I didn't give any concrete advice and said it remains to be seen whether such gifts will be deemed charitable.

    What did everyone else think? Looking for reassurances more than anything haha.



  • Registered Users Posts: 41 Lightup1


    EU


    Whats everyone covering for EU? Finding it so difficult to remember and feeling very burnt out at this stage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭lawgrad49


    Had to edit this as I misread your last few lines haha the post exam panic on here is never good if you think you've gone wrong!

    But on your answers, I had similar stuff for the Charitable purpose questions! Didn't include any UK case law under the last point but I did mention the first bequest could also be saved in the beneficial to the community part if you consider it the advancement of culture etc.

    I also realized I said the categories were under s.2 not s.3 by mistake, but hoping they'll not penalise me there just a mix up!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭LawLearnin


    Think I pretty much did this for these ones, just had in a line too about how 'family' might be construed. Thought it was an ok paper but not great, some of the questions seemed to be fairly narrowly focused. I defo did a terrible job on the advancement half-question, only gave the bare bones of what it's about and the problems with it but zero cases. Hoping against hope I can pick up enough points elsewhere to get through overall! 😬

    Thanks so much to everyone for sharing info on the exams and their experiences with them in general here. I don't personally know anyone doing the FE1s at the mo and have found it really helpful to see that other people are slogging away at these too. Best of luck to all sitting tomorrow's paper!



  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭SamWFE1


    Yeah I know what you mean by narrowly focused. I wanted to do the undue influence question which I thought I knew fairly well but the fact that it was framed as advising them on their policy put me off. Was thinking that my only advice to them would be to not go through with the transaction unless you have written confirmation from their solicitor???? Haha. Would have much preferred a problem question there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 fe1taker1998


    Would anybody have a corrected eu script they wouldnt mind sharing to get an idea? Have constitutional, contract and property to swap



  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭catonafence


    Institutions, FR, GP, FMOG, workers , DE and MSL, ART 101,102, JR. Supremacy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 HD25


    That problem question was defo Strong v Bird i.e., imperfect gift made during lifetime etc. is enough to contravene the beneficiaries of the will - legal and beneficial interest with the donor etc. That’s not to say all of what you wrote isn’t relevant.


    Also the trustees question wasn’t that narrow in scope, although he talked about investments, the standard of care meant you could bring in the other duties but in the scope of investments e.g. , duty to distribute/not to profit etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Creg12


    agree, EQ are hard to get across in 30 odd mins



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