Is Dave Chappelle's new special "The Closer" really transphobic?

Couldn't be more made up if you tried

My point is cancel culture is real but usually only against people who have no real power....

I am sure Chappelle will speak out against this...

Netflix of course will do or say or side with or against whoever they think will make them more money.

So someone should never voice displeasure at someone else in case it can be construed as attempting to cancel them?

And once again we see the use of the term 'woke mob' like it is something to be abhorred. Many of the advances we experience as a society originated in someone who would in todays world be categorized as being 'woke' standing up to say what has been going on up until now is not good enough.

I think you should reassess your use of the word facism in an age where we are seeing some groups using social media to express dislike of the views of someone, and others bringing in laws to prevent the wearing of masks or to limit the ability for freedom of expression and protest. Which elements are truly more akin to facism?

I've already said that I'm not overly convinced about the true representation behind an argument when evidence of the groupthink is limited to anonymous accounts on a social media platform.

I'm not sure most people (myself included) are educated or informed enough to express a concrete opinion on the finer details of the gender debate. It doesn't really affect many of us but it does seem to rile up people who see any sort of conversation about progression as more sign that the world they have been used to is changing. They might not even know to what degree but change does frighten a lot of people.

I'll deal with the main portion of your post first. Companies or individuals having to face questions from people as to why they hire someone or are associated with someone who has behaved in a particular way or said something or whatever it is is the other side of the coin that companies and individuals seek to capitalise on when someone has been particularly successful. When that situation exists, they want everyone to know that they are connected with this person and they want people to associate the perceived qualities or skills of that person with their brand. It's all a case of using the public mood in one way or another but companies are fine flogging merchandise with someone's image can't then get upset when that person displays an unsavory side and the company is asked how do they really feel about them.

These companies spend millions trying to cultivate their image amongst the public because they know they can make it back, why should the public fork out for goods, services, merchandise or whatever if they can't engage with them in a similar fashion.

And all sides do it. Don't pretend that this is unique to Leftist/SJW/Liberals as you implied in the first post I responded to. When people, up to and including the President of the US called for a footballer to be fired for calling attention to how people in his community suffered at the hands of the police, Nike continued to hire him. When this news emerged, people started burning their Nike branded shirts. Similar too when Gillette had a campaign asking men to set positive examples, people, collectively lost their sh*t over it and again announced to all and sundry that they were done buying their products.

Calls for someone to be fired create a little bit of noise, the silence within the NFL around Kapernick was a lot louder.

Finally to a secondary point I wanted to make. Below is a quote from your post.

You reiterated this point when given examples of people who are making laws to prevent the use of mask mandates or to inhibit peoples access to vote. The left might stir up some noteworthy viral content, the conservatives are enacting massively impactful legislation such as that outlined. Do you still want to claim the examples of facism we see in todays society are those coming from some social media content amongst tens of or possibly a couple hundred people?

Most of your post is literally stuff you've invented with little to no supporting evidence. You can't expect people to argue against things that have no concrete truths to them.

Interesting take on the Chapelle special from someone with a specific interest on the topic.

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Chapelle should have let fly making fun out of the whole covid scenario, but all he did was treat it like every other established brand does. A sacred grim cow of no craic.

Is the thread about whether or not Dave Chapelle’s latest show is transphobic, or is it about something else entirely?

I mean, in response to my earlier post, @TomTomTim suggested that most of my post is literally stuff I’ve made up with no supporting evidence, but all the evidence is there for anyone who has actually watched his shows and is familiar with his work and his background. This was basically the entire point of his latest show -

I don’t think Dave Chapelle himself is transphobic, the question is about the show, and the material in the show is just one hour long justification as to why Dave Chapelle is pissy because white people who are transgender are getting more attention from white people, than black people get from white people.

It’s summed up here -

Throughout the special, Chappelle creates a binary between oppression faced by Black people and LGBTQ2S+ people. 

“Any of you who have ever watched me know that I have never had a problem with transgender people,” the comedian says. “If you listen to what I’m saying, clearly, my problem has always been with white people.”

He then accuses the LGBTQ2S+ community of “punching down” on the Black community by “cancelling” figures like rapper DaBaby, who drew controversy this summer for homophobic remarks at one of his concerts. 

But in constructing his straw-trans argument, many social media users pointed out that Chappelle also seems to forget that Black queer and trans people exist—and that they actually face the majority of violence and oppression.

Are people not as entitled as Dave Chapelle to express their opinions or something? The difference between the thousands of them, and Dave Chapelle, is that for one thing he has far greater influence in society than any single one of them. It just so happens that a small number of people just don’t find his humour all that funny, and they are entitled as he is to express their opinions.

Let’s not pretend that there aren’t a greater majority of people who are quick to want to defend his opinions, because it gives them an opportunity to air their opinions about people who are transgender, or black, or whatever else, as though their opinions should be tolerated because Dave Chapelle said it and it’s art, free speech, etc.

Whether anyone wants to frame what they’re saying as art or free speech or anything else, doesn’t absolve them of criticism for their behaviour, and it doesn’t mean anyone has to debate with them respectfully or whatever else. It can be seen for what it is - basically trolling people, they don’t give a damn about any real world consequences for those people.

They don’t care about the effects their behaviour has on the people they’re setting up as targets, because they know those people don’t have the same leverage, as Chapelle himself puts it. He knows he can get away with his shìtty behaviour and people will make excuses for him. He also knows that the people he sets up as targets, don’t have the same leverage as he has, because they’re not being paid €60m to talk shìt and portray themselves as martyrs -

If you can't tell the difference between pointing out a flaw in an argument and asking someone to consider their point versus accusing someone of trying to police a debate and just dismissing their posts without any form of response, I don't know what to tell you.

Some day a lot of people are going to wake up an realise they have become the perpetually outraged snowflakes they have spent years complaining about. Not aiming that at you per se but the amount of complaining on this site lately because someone has the gall to disagree with what has been posted is off the charts. Think we might need to set up a 'safe space' forum for a few posters.

Really? If a group of anti-vax Christian fundies tried to storm into a board meeting to demand that the Dr. Fauci documentary be removed from the platform how do you think that would work out? I'd say their feet wouldn't touch the ground on the way to the door and despite their 'sincerely held beliefs' I very much doubt they would be reinstated a day after their suspension.