The Curse of Defective Concrete (Mica, Pyrrhotite, etc.) in Donegal homes - Read Mod warning Post 1

VillageIdiot71 · 11-10-2021 12:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003579#Comment_118003579

I would have invested 12 minutes of my life in that, but when you're only about a minute in he says as a by-the-by that his house is also on a flood plain.

At which stage I said FFS, and left.

I'm sure others may wish to entertain this further. I don't.

11-10-2021 02:36PM

The solution to the mica homes emergency. These homes can be built in a couple of days, and with only 3 people on site. The cost of a 3d construction printer is between $190k and $1 million depending on size. These homes are already being built in Europe. Here is a link to an article from last May in an Irish publication discussing hw this technology could solve Ireland's housing problems. https://extra.ie/2021/05/05/property/3d-printed-homes-housing-crisis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwjk7xsgYbo

malinheader · 11-10-2021 02:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004801#Comment_118004801

Brilliant. I totally agree. One of these should be built for every homeowner affected by mica until there existing house is fully reinstated. This will solve the problem of accommodation for the families when they have to leave their homes.

lawrencesummers · 11-10-2021 02:52PM

Is it a strange position to believe that these people should be given 100% redress while also believing that the other taxpayers of the country should not have to pay for it?

Show me the quarry owner in handcuffs getting his assets seized, and the quality control people associated with those materials being prosecuted and I will be happier, but the government appears happy to write a big cheque without opening the can of worms that is holding those responsible to account, presumably because it will highlight their own failings in this regard.

water-man · 11-10-2021 03:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004831#Comment_118004831

Maybe not one for every family but as not all homes will be repaired at the same time. These could be constructed and rotated by families who's homes are currently undergoing repair. When each family home is repaired the family leaving repairs, paints, deep clean etc for the next family. Then when the redress is complete the department will have a stock of housing.

RandomViewer · 11-10-2021 03:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004903#Comment_118004903

Government doesn't seem to want them touched, willing to sacrifice McConalogues seat to protect them,

malinheader · 11-10-2021 03:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004903#Comment_118004903

We're you asked if you wanted to bail out the banks or bail out some insurance companies. And please highlight some of the people's own failings you seem to know about.

TheAnalyst_ · 11-10-2021 04:16PM

Disgraceful if the taxpayer ends up paying for holiday homes and cheap bungalows.

RandomViewer · 11-10-2021 04:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005296#Comment_118005296

We'll be paying for their housing either way, once off rebuild or a lease to a vulture fund, take your pick

TheAnalyst_ · 11-10-2021 04:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005307#Comment_118005307

They can rent their own house.

Penfailed · 11-10-2021 04:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005296#Comment_118005296

Cheap bungalows? Eh? They're only cheap currently because they're falling down. They weren't originally.

lawrencesummers · 11-10-2021 05:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005141#Comment_118005141

If the government peruse recourse against the villians here in the same way they did the bankers it will leave everyone off the hook.

GreeBo · 11-10-2021 05:35PM

Is there consensus on the answer to "100% of what" yet?

The amount required varies massively depending on the expectations, meaning the outcome moves between possible and highly unlikely.

Jinglejangle69 · 11-10-2021 06:01PM

Do the owners still pay back their mortgage for a house that will be bulldozed and rebuilt with tax payers money?

What way does this work?

muffler · 11-10-2021 06:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005817#Comment_118005817

You have asked this question, twice, in the thread in the politics forum and it was answered so Im unsure as to why you need to ask it for the third time here.

RandomViewer · 11-10-2021 06:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005397#Comment_118005397

How? Average €200k still owed on most mica houses

Penfailed · 11-10-2021 07:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118005817#Comment_118005817

Yes. What do you mean, "What way does this work?" The house owner is paying a mortgage. The house is currently worthless. Whilst the house owner is out of the house when the remedial work is being carried out, they're still paying a mortgage. Once they move back in, they're still paying a mortgage. Where's the confusion?

Jinglejangle69 · 11-10-2021 07:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006158#Comment_118006158

That's the answer I needed thanks for explaining.

Jinglejangle69 · 11-10-2021 07:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006000#Comment_118006000

The answer I asked for wasn't explained.

But thanks anyway.

TheAnalyst_ · 11-10-2021 08:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006030#Comment_118006030

That’s up to them to figure out. Move in with family. Cut back. Work more.

malinheader · 11-10-2021 08:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006432#Comment_118006432

Congratulations. One of the most stupidest posts I have ever read on boards.

Enough said.

TheAnalyst_ · 11-10-2021 08:56PM

I’m paying 3.5k every month in rent and mortgage. I make it work as it’s my life and my decision.

malinheader · 11-10-2021 09:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006477#Comment_118006477

And is the house your paying for crumbling around you and your soon to be left with no house but still a mortgage.

Listen no point continuing with this because it's not sinking in is it.

TheAnalyst_ · 11-10-2021 09:05PM

It’s not because I chose a house that’s been standing for a hundred years, had it inspected and appropriately insured.

My life. My choice. Not the states.

11-10-2021 09:05PM

SO if 100% redress is given, will the same contractors, quarry owners and builders suppliers effectively get paid double to do the job they should have done properly the first time?. Hopefully any redress scheme will blacklist the cute hoors that made the money first time around

malinheader · 11-10-2021 09:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006507#Comment_118006507

Appropriately insured. You haven't a clue about any of this issue have you. Go away and read up about the mica scandal and what issues the homeowners face. Your on here spouting off about something you didn't even bother to look into. Appropriately insured that statement shows how much you know.

Penfailed · 11-10-2021 09:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006477#Comment_118006477

There you go. It's your decision. I didn't decide to buy a crumbling house. It was outside my control.

RandomViewer · 11-10-2021 09:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006432#Comment_118006432

Meanwhile Cassidy carries on unhindered? BAM are getting paid more in extras for the NCH than this is going to cost, Foreign Aid budget for 3 years would cover it, African Dictators might have to settle for a G5,

It will take up to a decade to complete the scheme, actual yearly cost will be around 20% of HAP,

Penfailed · 11-10-2021 09:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006511#Comment_118006511

My builder has folded. There's not a hope that one single block will be used from that manufacturer. Builders suppliers? Probably. The house was done properly the first time, albeit with a defective product.

RandomViewer · 11-10-2021 09:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118006477#Comment_118006477

That's dying ,not living,

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