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Madeleine McCann

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 285 ✭✭Hellokitty1212


    The JonBenet case is very odd. An intruder comes in while they are sleeping and spends several minutes writing a ransom note with paper and utensils from the house? Very odd indeed. I think there were so many strange things about that case that you couldn't help but think that something wasn't right.

    I could never decide between the brother or the father for poor Jonbenet.

    Madeleine McCann I believe was taken by an opportunist abductor - the parent in me wants to believe she’s safe and will be found like Elizabeth Smart or others. I fear the worst though.

    I was torn with Amy Fitzpatrick; I thought once that the stepfather killed her. Other times that she simply ran away. A confusing case.

    What links them all are grieving parents and they have my sympathy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    I could never decide between the brother or the father for poor Jonbenet.

    Madeleine McCann I believe was taken by an opportunist abductor - the parent in me wants to believe she’s safe and will be found like Elizabeth Smart or others. I fear the worst though.

    I was torn with Amy Fitzpatrick; I thought once that the stepfather killed her. Other times that she simply ran away. A confusing case.

    What links them all are grieving parents and they have my sympathy.

    When Amy's brother, Dean, was killed by their stepfather, the idea of silencing Dean being a motive doesn't make sense because Dean, if he had suspected his stepfather, would've put as much distance as possible between them and would've told the Gardaí long before he was killed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 285 ✭✭Hellokitty1212


    When Amy's brother, Dean, was killed by their stepfather, the idea of silencing Dean being a motive doesn't make sense because Dean, if he had suspected his stepfather, would've put as much distance as possible between them and would've told the Gardaí long before he was killed.

    Fair point yeah, strange one that whole case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,826 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    The Madeline situation is so weird... there hasn’t been a shred of new evidence since the abduction... no new arrests.. no real leads...it’s actually like she did disappear into thin air...I’d say she’s been killed though...I’m 100%... she’d be an adult now, 18/19.... she’d remember her previous life, her parents, being abducted, her face all over the media, that eye thing too... she just can’t be alive... no possibility..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    To be honest, I wonder why Amy Fitzpatrick's mother hasn't been the target of such criticism for dragging Amy to Spain in the first place.

    I'm sorry I'm not sure what your point is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    JonBenét's parents were worse - they didn't murder her but they put her in harm's way by submitting her to "beauty pageant", thus making her a sitting duck for predatory paedophiles (as opposed to those paedophiles who resist the urge). If it wasn't for her parents, her murderer would've have heard of her and so she wouldn't have been at any greater risk than any other child would have been.

    While I abhor the whole concept of beauty pageants for kids, I think your point lacks in the legal concept of "remoteness". It is still and always is, the paedophile's fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭zanador


    Antares35 wrote: »
    While I abhor the whole concept of beauty pageants for kids, I think your point lacks in the legal concept of "remoteness". It is still and always is, the paedophile's fault.

    And the reality is paedophiles 9/10 still go for family members, children they have access to like sports groups and scouts (and more recently online predation). Should we all be responsible then if our child is molested under those circumstances?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,769 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    The JonBenet case is very odd. An intruder comes in while they are sleeping and spends several minutes writing a ransom note with paper and utensils from the house? Very odd indeed. I think there were so many strange things about that case that you couldn't help but think that something wasn't right.

    From memory of that case three different investigating detectives resigned over it. The parents look guilty as hell in having involvement in it but they seem to have power over people for some reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭TallyRand


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I'm sorry I'm not sure what your point is.

    Compares to the vitriol the McCanns get especially.
    Somehow yer one gets away with it despite the on par level of care at the time with many of Amy’s friends mothers saying she was like an abandoned child for months crashing in friends houses. Seem like the mother and the killer fella were a right pair of beauts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    TallyRand wrote: »
    Compares to the vitriol the McCanns get especially.
    Somehow yer one gets away with it despite the on par level of care at the time with many of Amy’s friends mothers saying she was like an abandoned child for months crashing in friends houses. Seem like the mother and the killer fella were a right pair of beauts

    Oh ok. Yeah that one was a strange one alright, always got the impression there was more going on there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Antares35 wrote: »
    While I abhor the whole concept of beauty pageants for kids, I think your point lacks in the legal concept of "remoteness". It is still and always is, the paedophile's fault.

    My point is moral responsibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I'm sorry I'm not sure what your point is.

    That Amy's mother was given a free pass while Madeleine's parents were pilloried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75


    The JonBenet case is very odd. An intruder comes in while they are sleeping and spends several minutes writing a ransom note with paper and utensils from the house? Very odd indeed. I think there were so many strange things about that case that you couldn't help but think that something wasn't right.

    15-20 minutes after the father brought his daughter’s dead body upstairs a detective overheard him on the phone to the pilot of their private aircraft telling him to prepare to fly as soon as possible. He tried to explain it away saying he knew the house would be sealed off. He’s on public record admitting to this in TV interviews.

    The woman detective said the father looked into her eyes after laying her body down and she saw something in his face that made her check her gun holster was in place and she then called twice for backup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭fantaiscool


    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    15-20 minutes after the father brought his daughter’s dead body upstairs a detective overheard him on the phone to the pilot of their private aircraft telling him to prepare to fly as soon as possible. He tried to explain it away saying he knew the house would be sealed off. He’s on public record admitting to this in TV interviews.

    The woman detective said the father looked into her eyes after laying her body down and she saw something in his face that made her check her gun holster was in place and she then called twice for backup.


    Yeah it's a crazy case when you look into it. There's a video floating on youtube of Patsy Ramsey being questioned about her handwriting being similar to the note and she's asked if she can recognize her own handwriting on some family photos she took and she struggles to recognize it. The more I looked into that case the more infuriated I became. How can you not recognize your own handwriting, especially on your own photos. Poor Jonbenet

    Watch the video and judge for yourself




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    No, not interested.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 285 ✭✭Hellokitty1212


    That Amy's mother was given a free pass while Madeleine's parents were pilloried.

    Ben Needham went missing from a Greek island and was largely forgotten. I remember reading his mother saying she’d take the public abuse and bad press for more help finding him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Madeleine McCann suspect to be charged with 2004 rape of Dublin woman


    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/madeleine-mccann-hazel-behan-rape-20512928

    A suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is set to be charged with the rape of an Irish woman in 2004.


    Christian B is suspected of attacking Irish tour representative Hazel Behan in her Portugal apartment, which is just half an hour drive away from where Madeleine vanished aged three years old in 2007.


    German cops hope to charge the sex offender “within the next three months," the Sunday Times reports.


    Today also marks the 14th year of Madeleine's disappearance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,118 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    ShineOn7 wrote: »


    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/madeleine-mccann-hazel-behan-rape-20512928





    Today also marks the 14th year of Madeleine's disappearance

    14 years ? Jesus the time doesn’t be long going. I was just finishing college that summer and it was a shocking story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,826 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Just not going to get solved... unless a person who actually has access to hard verifiable evidence comes forward or a witness or witnesses blow the whistle but I’m thinking if they had have kept stum for that length of time it’s unlikely to be chomping away at their conscience, nor will it ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Strumms wrote: »
    Just not going to get solved... unless a person who actually has access to hard verifiable evidence comes forward or a witness or witnesses blow the whistle but I’m thinking if they had have kept stum for that length of time it’s unlikely to be chomping away at their conscience, nor will it ever.

    You never know. Plenty of deathbed confessions out there. And didn’t we get ‘this’ far because someone spoke out. Different police force, different jurisdiction, different approach.

    God help that poor family - unimaginable. And even more horrific than anyone could haVe ever imagined the subject & suggested outcome. Horrific.

    I’m sure all the Ballymaloe & Darina &Ted Allen convicted paedophile apologists will just shrug their shoulders like they are doing in another thread & say child rapist predators and supporters of online child rape photos are ‘just looking’ and there’s no real harm in looking. Suspended sentences for everyone.

    Revolting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    Madeleine McCann's 18th birthday today.

    Her last Christmas with her family

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Madeleine McCann's 18th birthday today


    And almost a year since CB was made a suspect and - yet again - nothing has come of it

    Tune in next year for the next "suspect" in this case. There's been over 20 strong "suspects" over the last fourteen years just like CB and, in the end, they went nowhere

    Whatever your beliefs about this case, it is utterly baffling in so many ways

    The ultimate unsolved mystery imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    punchdrunk wrote: »

    Concrete evidence with new circumstantial evidence.

    Shouldn't be too much longer now.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    limnam wrote: »
    Concrete evidence with new circumstantial evidence.

    Shouldn't be too much longer now.........

    I really don’t think Wolters is talkin ****e, to repeatedly state that he has evidence and then to say a year on that he has more circumstantial evidence would be career suicide if he didn’t have a case- prosecutors tend to be very smart people
    I really think we’re going to see this solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    I really don’t think Wolters is talkin ****e, to repeatedly state that he has evidence and then to say a year on that he has more circumstantial evidence would be career suicide if he didn’t have a case- prosecutors tend to be very smart people
    I really think we’re going to see this solved.

    Lets hope so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Front page the Mirror

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    I just hope he gives the location of the body so they can put her to rest like she deserves. An awful story from start to finish



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    I'm not sure this bastard would have the decency to do so.



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