Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Fair enough, that's understandable. Might be best to watch out for messages that say it's not happening rather than use past history as a guide.

So you have just provided proof that the government already delayed a phase of reopening, If they did it once they could do it again. Hell must be freezing over that you are backing up that poster's claims!!

They didn't delay a phase though, they delayed one segment within a phase, but everything else that was scheduled for July 5th happened, and August, and September....

But it was going to be open with restrictions anyway, or don't social distancing, contact tracing and table service count?

Exactly so there is a chance they could delay a segment on the 22nd. Glad u finally agree with that poster

Of course, I can safely say that between now and the end of time, everything that could possibly happen either will or won't happen..... Maybe.

I'll always hedge my bets against someone who has had 99.99999% of their made up nonsense debunked though.

The 67% figure is those currently in ICU.

Since the last update (they don't keep the old ones) and excluding partially vaccinated people, 50% of all ICU daily admissions are unvaccinated and 50% fully vaccinated.

Exactly iamwhoiam .

That was my point , which was ignored by all those who answered .

Is it time those arriving in hospital with Covid who are by choice unvaccinated were charged €1200 per night or whatever the cost to private healthcare per day is due to them making the decision to stay outside advice given?

As I said graphs show the general numbers to be fairly stable if somewhat like a yo yo.

The same people freaking out about numbers rising in a week are the same who would have said a decline over a week was no reason to get excited. The current increases match perfectly with the 20th September date of "officially" reopening workplaces and other indoor activities. None of this is unexpected, so there's a reason why even NPHET aren't losing their mind over this. There was a similar bump after schools opened, which calmed down again and declined. And another will happen again in the 22nd.

Ultimately the base facts haven't changed. We are roughly at saturation when it comes to vaccination, with an infection that is now endemic. Some people can't get their heads around this. There is nowhere else to go. We have anecdotal evidence above, and that we're all starting to see, that people are dropping their guard regardless of the rules. And this will continue no matter what the "official" stance is.

The undercurrent now is, "Restrictions are in place to protect the unvaccinated". You can see it in the news articles. You can see it in the discussions. And people won't tolerate it continuing. Nobody cares now about people who are wilfully unvaccinated. Everyone else has done their part, so it's time to say "fvck the unvaccinated". If they die, they die, that's their problem. Of course that means pressure on the hospitals, but at this stage everyone knows that our hospitals system routinely runs at capacity and we don't lock down. Continuing restrictions because our health system is a mess and a small number of stupid cvnts refuse to take a vaccination would be political suicide.

At this stage vaccinations have probably topped off and what's happening at present is a kind of a let it rip approach with trying to pick up stragglers a public health issue. While this current situation is not producing a massive surge to put systems under pressure it's of no great concern. The 22nd should be a watershed for people, in the sense that virtually everything we have been subject to over the last 18 months will disappear. You'd also expect this daily reporting of cases to disappear from the headlines and people to begin to care less about some of these things that have got them so antsy.

Lol.Pat Kenny is just an auld worn out sock at this stage.