I want more free money

Darc19 · 09-10-2021 3:40pm #1

Another Daily Mail, sorry indpendent.ie (they are so similar these days with equal amounts of sh1te in both) tear jerker story looking for more money

https://www.independent.ie/business/budget/we-never-have-little-treats-like-takeaways-and-im-losing-faith-when-i-see-an-extra-5-thrown-at-us-carers-40932537.html

Yes, I have some sympathy, but one question that has not been (and for some reason never is) asked in these puff pieces of rubbish is "Where's the father", why is he (or they in some cases) not contributing one cent?

I'll give some some free advice Grainne - get a court order for maintenance and make sure its enforced.

and as for your 25 year old daughter - surely if she's living there she should be contributing to the bills. - or was that just handily left out of the equation as it didn't suit the narrative of the indo's gutter style journalism?

Oh, I I suspect you also forgot about the huge supports the government has for disabled services (yes, they always want/need more, but its very good if compared internationally)

And lucky you don't live a few miles way across the border - the allowance is about 70% LOWER and children's allowance is also almost half the rate here. - I think your story should say "Thankfully we live here as we can get by with what we get unlike similar people in Northern Ireland who are on the breadline in the same situation"

Snugbugrug28 · 09-10-2021 3:43pm

Oh dear lord. Just waiting for the cavalry to arrive on this thread...

I Armour I · 09-10-2021 3:44pm

*grabs popcorn*

Ubbquittious · 09-10-2021 3:46pm

Don't mind asking for a simple increase, or for a tenner or even 25 quid. Go straight for the 100

xhomelezz · 09-10-2021 3:49pm

Another fooking clickbait, only came cuz free money and fook all. Thanks OP.

09-10-2021 3:50pm

I wonder how much it would cost the state to mind this disabled child if the mother wasn't doing it?

Multipass · 09-10-2021 3:55pm

I think you picked the wrong story for this. I have a friend who’s a single mum to a very seriously disabled son, and its a hellish life. She has destroyed her back with lifting, and recently has been covered with bruises from her adult sized son hitting her. She would love to be able to work, it would be like time off for her! It’s no gravy train. She knows that quite soon she’s going to have to sign her son into full time state care, and it’s breaking her heart.

and before you ask, the father ran away to the other side of the planet and started a new family. Not a country that will enforce the maintenance order.

Dempo1 · 09-10-2021 4:03pm

Just re maintenance, if this story doesn't make your blood boil, little will.

One clown went off for a nice weekend with his F*****g parents (who presumably are the Grandparents) albeit who knows these days.

Judge had enough Bullshit and about time

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/judge-sends-three-fathers-to-the-cells-in-30-minutes-for-failing-to-pay-maintenance-for-their-children-40931093.html

Darc19 · 09-10-2021 4:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997684#Comment_117997684

But she's not asking for an extra €100 a week.

This is very much highlighting gutter journalists who write this omitting plenty of facts.

If the story was about supports and what extra is needed to assist those with disability, I'd be 100% supportive, but blanket €100 more money is not the angle to go for

Multipass · 09-10-2021 4:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997708#Comment_117997708

Fair enough, I don’t think an extra 100 would make much difference to her - she needs respite care.

09-10-2021 4:14pm

While I have sympathy for her situation, her numbers don’t add up. Leaving out the 26 year old, the basic amount per week is €219 + €90 (2x€45) + the middle child’s Domiciliary Carers Allowance of about €80 a week plus Children’s Allowance of €35 a week, totalling €424 a week.

SVI40 · 09-10-2021 4:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997700#Comment_117997700

Pity the judges don't do the same to mothers who breach orders for the fathers access to their children.

Dempo1 · 09-10-2021 4:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997739#Comment_117997739

And a point well made 👍

Donald Trump · 09-10-2021 4:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997684#Comment_117997684

Yeah. When I read the title I wasn't expecting a story about a woman with a disabled child. She is the type of person that should be supported. Actual scroungers should be stopped so that there is more for genuine cases.

Oranage2 · 09-10-2021 4:42pm

I love a dole scrounger thread but Single mothers with disabled/autistic children have some of the hardest lives trying to raise their kid. Full sympathy goes to anyone in that situation.

Still stihl waters 3 · 09-10-2021 4:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997700#Comment_117997700

Pity they're not allowed be named, what a bunch of wasters, I'm an acquaintance of the guy that was in the paper a couple weeks ago for buying sex toys, he's a degenerate fcuk with 2 house and works for cash caddying in lehinch, they should be named and shamed and given time if they don't want to pay up

Snugbugrug28 · 09-10-2021 4:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997780#Comment_117997780

I think this is actually what the thread is about. Theres no doubt this is a good cause and everyone will believe this person should be supported but the question is where do you draw the line?

09-10-2021 4:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997739#Comment_117997739

This judge would, and has been known to do the same to mothers.

Judge 'seriously concerned' as mother accused of using Covid-19 as 'excuse' to stop dad's access (irishexaminer.com)

She takes no **** from anyone.

I knew who the judge was going to be before I even read the full article.

SupplyandDemandZone · 09-10-2021 4:58pm

New low for Boards?

Jequ0n · 09-10-2021 4:59pm

What’s the issue? She has enough money to pay her bills. They just don’t have anything left over for treats. Isn’t that an issue for many families?

Sob story indeed.

SEPT 23 1989 · 09-10-2021 5:16pm

290 a week for a family of four isn't much of a life now is it

dudley72 · 09-10-2021 5:21pm

Im not having a discussion about how much the lady should get, in reality she should be asking for 200

But I don’t understand about installing prepay power because she can’t afford a bill? She is paying the standard rate plus a huge margin on standing charge for that setup, at the moment you can get up to 40% discount off supplier, that’s alone would save her a fortune over the year.

PrePay Power was brought in for landlord so they don’t get screwed with bills when tenants leave, why anyone would install in a house is puzzling to me

Mrs OBumble · 09-10-2021 5:25pm

One of whom is a 26 year old adult, whose board payments should be making a substantial difference to the household income.

dudley72 · 09-10-2021 5:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997932#Comment_117997932

It’s not 290 a week, children allowance would be additional on top of that.

She is right to ask for more but she should be up front with what she gets because some people will pick holes in it and she will lose the message.

We have this lady getting hammered yet we have other who choose to sit around doing nothing and we push loads on money onto them. Like people complaining the PUP was gone, would it not be better to give the PuP to her?

Jequ0n · 09-10-2021 5:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997932#Comment_117997932

That’s assuming the 26 year old isn’t working.

TheValeyard · 09-10-2021 5:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997871#Comment_117997871

Ah yeah, just surviving. Sure what's wrong with that?

Theres more to life than just getting by and making sure the bills are paid. Taking care of sick children or family members is a 24/7/365 job. These 'treats' might just be something small that helps them keep going.

Be right back · 09-10-2021 5:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997871#Comment_117997871

Getting some enjoyment out of life isn't much to ask for either.

Jequ0n · 09-10-2021 5:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998022#Comment_117998022

It’s not the state’s responsibility to provide for enjoyment/ entertainment.

Padraig Mor · 09-10-2021 6:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997736#Comment_117997736

The DCA also brings with it an annual respite grant of €1700, so that another ~€33 a week. Presumably she also gets the fuel allowance as well - think that's about €20 a week or so?

Possibly a bit of a hard case to criticize (probably why it was chosen) but just goes to show the how biased or incompetent (take your pick) journalists such as this and Kitty Holland etc are - the complete picture is rarely given.

09-10-2021 6:27pm

A parent who cares full time for a severely disabled child is saving the State an enormous amount of money. This woman will be likely be caring for this child for the rest of both their lives, so as long as she is still physically and mentally able. Imagine how much it would cost to provide full time care to an adult who couldn’t look after themselves, if there wasn’t a family member around to do it? Imagine if she decided she just can’t and won’t care for the child and the child would have to go into care? Begrudging her an extra few quid is pathetic.

Be right back · 09-10-2021 6:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998223#Comment_117998223

Well said.

listermint · 09-10-2021 6:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058212357/i-want-more-free-money

Jesus some people have an absolute horn for misery. They see it . Take it on get all excited and then come straight to boards to spunk it all over the place.

Does it feel good getting all this off your chest ?

Would absolutely love. And I do mean absolutely love to see you look after a loved one 24/7 I'd pay good money to see the turn around of your joy after 12 months.

But sure youd probably leg it to the other side of the world to escape it.

Dempo1 · 09-10-2021 6:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998281#Comment_117998281

+ 1 😏

dudley72 · 09-10-2021 7:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998223#Comment_117998223

The cost is listed in the article and it’s 7k per week.

I don’t begrudge her anything but I do think it’s bad journalism not to give the full picture as it just gives people ammunition against her.

in reality during covid this woman never got an extra penny while people are still sitting at home on more money than she is getting by choice. We have a crazy system when she suffers because other people play the system

Be right back · 09-10-2021 7:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998427#Comment_117998427

With no school and respite possibly as well.

end of the road · 09-10-2021 7:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998042#Comment_117998042

ultimately irrelevant given nobody said it was.

09-10-2021 7:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998223#Comment_117998223

I don’t think that anyone is begrudging her, nor envying her situation. However, when one agrees to have their story told in a National newspaper, it is important for the facts to be accurate.

Wanderer78 · 09-10-2021 7:52pm

...and yet again, we simply wont create the money, to try solve these issues, all because of bullsh1t economic beliefs and ideologies!

ZX7R · 09-10-2021 8:09pm

Ireland does not in anyway have a world class support for people with special needs or for there families.

Payments in Ireland are good by eu standards but that doesn't mean much living in Ireland.

Speaking from experience you have to fight tooth and nail for everything for your child from diagnosis to simple treatment.

Special needs school are so underfunded unless a government members child or relative is inrolled.

Best of luck getting therapys in public health best you can expect is half an hour corse and wing and a prayer.

As for private therapy the costs are astronomical.

I left Ireland a year and a half ago,my family and i purely to give my son the best we could .

He has been reassessed and diagnosed with 3 new disorders including his original in Ireland.

He receives daily speech,phiso, psychological too name a few.

And weekly neurological specialist. and developmental team work.

Mentally in the space of a year he as gone from 6 month old to a 4 year old he is 9 years old, I was told in Ireland be prepared to institutionalize him in the near future.

Give the woman a break sometimes a €100 could be the difference if they can get a takeaway, getting her hair done ect.

No doubt she spends every penny on her disabled child.

fits · 09-10-2021 8:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998628#Comment_117998628

Where are you now?

my child hasn’t seen a hse therapist in person since the pandemic started.

(Besides one session with physio to fit orthotics.).

fits · 09-10-2021 8:18pm

I genuinely cant fathom how lone parents with children with special needs cope with poverty added in as well.

it is very very difficult to never get a break.

ZX7R · 09-10-2021 8:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998644#Comment_117998644

We moved to Poland would you believe.

Special needs schools and associated medical or therapys never ceased during the pandemic.

Deemed as essential.

Funny in a way during lockdown here seeing him go to school and his twin sister sitting at home doing zoom school.

fits · 09-10-2021 8:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998664#Comment_117998664

Mine are twins too 😀. One typical and one himself. We have a great special preschool but only for that it would be very little.

SEPT 23 1989 · 09-10-2021 8:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998644#Comment_117998644

Beg borrow and steal and pay privately

do not wait for the HSE for anything

every day makes a difference

Cdemess · 09-10-2021 8:40pm

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Potential-Monke · 09-10-2021 9:07pm

It's not going to be a popular comment, but it's one I thoroughly believe and live by. She made her bed, now lay in it. Yes, it's harsh, but I don't have empathy so I can see past the teary story. She didn't let all her income be known, not a hope she is only getting €290 a week end of. Lots of people don't get to treat themselves or their kids. Lots of people don't get to go on holidays. We're supposed to feel sorry for her because of her situation. Yeah, it's not easy, and certainly not one I would be able to handle. But when you decide (and by decide, I also mean not being careful) to have kids, having a child with disabilities is a possibility, and something that should be considered before having them and ensuring that you can afford to look after someone with disabilities. We already give a chunk of money, for free, to people just for having kids, and extra for those with disabilities. I also don't agree in calling her a carer, unless she has a qualification, otherwise she's just a parent imo.

Don't get me wrong, more can be done, but like Mica, like claims for falling over in public, why are the government responsible? Yes, I am heartless; build a bridge.

ZX7R · 09-10-2021 9:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998801#Comment_117998801

Too many probabilities in your view, how do you know she didn't plan all that you said before having the child.

People's circumstances change all the time.

Circumstances will change in your life at some point.

Hopefully somebody will help you weather that be a personal friend or government Aid, if you ever have to cross that bridge.

fits · 09-10-2021 10:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998702#Comment_117998702

We do go privately but it’s not enough really. The multidisciplinary teams promised by hse are what we really need but can’t get that privately.

As for the she made her bed comment. I hope life goes smoothly for you mate but life has a habit of throwing curveballs even with the best laid plans.

SEPT 23 1989 · 09-10-2021 10:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117999020#Comment_117999020

I presume the person is very young who made that comment

when you get older you realise you never give two fingers to the gods

09-10-2021 10:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998801#Comment_117998801

I think this comment is a bit harsh. We are all victims of circumstances. While I queried the amount of welfare she receives, there’s no avoiding the harshness of her situation. The saying “Your health is your wealth “ comes to mind.

Potential-Monke · 09-10-2021 10:30pm

Told ye it wouldn't be popular. Yeah, life throws curveballs, but we all have to deal with them ourselves. There are people in worse off situations keeping quiet. My own sister is a single mother to an autistic teenager. I would have left the country years ago if I had to deal with what she does. But because of that (and lots of other life stuff), I'm avoiding it by just not having kids. Also, I'm 37 and my views are shaped by my life experiences. There was a time I had empathy, but it's long gone.

I have kept close to my family, haven't fallen out with any of them (even though there were times I could), and I keep in well with them, because I do know that I may need help some day, and if I'm not having kids, I may need the rest of my family to help, but I also pay for private health insurance, private dental, private everything to ensure I'm covered. Yes, I may be unlucky and lose my job, one which I'm not fond of but it pays the bills, but I also have a job in an area which will only grow, something I deliberately went towards to ensure there's a future there at least.

Yes, it's harsh, but life is not easy. Take away the feelings, deal with the fact, that's what I do, and what everyone should do. No decisions should be made based on emotion imo, but people can't help themselves. Look at Cash and the others like her, milking the system because of peoples bleeding hearts. Not saying this lady is anything like Cash, but still, I can't help but feel that running to the media is an attempt to get peoples feelings on her side in order to benefit herself.

Sounds like she has no friends or family to help out. Or maybe she's like my sister, and thinks she can't ask anyone for help and will do it all herself, even though help is all around her. And no mention of the father. I can't take these stories seriously if they're not addressing all the facts.

I want more free money

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