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SMACKDOWN LIVE SUPERTHREAD

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Quality post. If I could like it twice I would.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Pretty good go-home show that actually has me interested in Extreme Rules.

    Becky and Bianca had a great segment. I loved the Demon ending and I really wish that Balor had a shot at taking the belt but I just don't see it.

    Had no idea the draft was so close, hopefully it will be the kick up the arse that Raw needs.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Yeah I thought Ford's promo was great and the match (whilst a little sloppy in parts) was fairly decent. I can't buy into Bianca at all still though. Her mic work consists of 'Nuh-Uh Girl' every single week and the hair braid swinging still irrationally annoys me, particularly when she's supposed to be pissed off. I've cancelled the Network so will source the PPV from other methods I think, there just isn't enough for me to want to pay for it right now tbh



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I probably wouldn't have think it was worth it if it wasn't for the Peacock price tbh, not that I use Peacock either haha.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,286 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I've said before but Bianca needs to just start speaking in her normal voice with proper English. She's a college graduate and if she wants to be a role model, how about letting kids know proper grammar. I know mine isn't always perfect but just hearing her say something like "You is..." it just adds to a stereotypical character she should be trying to avoid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,504 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Can Naomi complain to Adam Pearce about Sonya?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Just caught up on Smackdown. I can't see Balor winning but they're doing more with him than I expected them to. I'd imagine the Usos will cost him but they're doing a good job of making him look like a big deal anyway Hopefully the finish will protect him somewhat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Unless they pull a shock and have brock attack reigns and Balor takes the title only to drop it on Smackdown



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Opening night of the draft Who will go to SD ?

    My guess to SD

    Drew

    Charlotte

    Ricochet

    Damien Priest (and the US Title)

    Viking Raiders

    LA Knight



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    draft rules.


    Wrestlers from Raw, SD, and NXT are available as per discussions between the brands officials and the networks.

    -Half of the roster eligible tonight, other half in Monday. Undrafted wrestlers are free agents and can sign with a brand of their choosing.

    -The draft goes into effect after Crown Jewel on Oct 22.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Be interesting to see who from NXT is in the draft

    Has Johnny Gargano given in and joining the main roster full time ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    "Landscape will change forever."

    It will in me hole...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    So, hit row are getting called up and swerve can drop the NA title on the way? I'm in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,286 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Why couldn't they just have it after Crown Jewel then? Something I enjoy about the draft is the surprise when someone issues an open challenge.

    Doesn't sound like that will happen tonight and Monday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Roman staying on SD

    Big E gone to Raw

    Charlotte gone to SD

    Bianca Belair To Raw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    You have to admit, this version of Brock Lesner is badass



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Every version of Brock is badass. Even Brock party.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    So basically with Charlotte moving and Bianca going the other way either Becky is Raw bound or Bianca's winning at Crown Jewel. This is why Drafts not happening instantly are stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    King of the ring and for the first time a Queen of the ring tournament. Starting next Friday on the SD season premiere

    Looking forward to these, always loved King Of The Ring.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Round 2

    Drew to SD

    Rk- Bro stay on raw

    New day (Kofi and Woods) to SD

    Edge to Raw



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    New Day (Kofi & Xavier) to Smackdown? That's a strange one. Correct decision with McIntyre though. Edge going to Raw is not that surprising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I'm guessing this segment now will lead to Edge vs Rollins III at crown Jewell to end the feud possibly meaning Rollins is staying on SD



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    This is both awesome and ridiculously wrestle crap

    Ffs copeland family lock your door and remember the camera person is also intruding your house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Rollins...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Round 3

    Happy Corbin and Madcap Moss to SD

    Rhea Rhipley and Nikki Ash to Raw

    Hit Row to SD

    Keith Lee to Raw



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Raw basically being similar to it is most Mondays... Boring and too samey. Edge and Bianca the only real additions so far, most if not all of the rest are already there 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,504 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rhea and Nikki as tag champs are on both shows



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Round 4

    Naomi to SD

    Rey and Dominik to Raw

    Jeff Hardy To SD

    Austin Theory To Raw (don't mention his brief main roster appearances a while back)



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Why can't babyfaces have friends? Why can't they just leave the New Day together, and have them as a trio supporting each other?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Decent enough, draft was about what was expected.

    Splitting New Day again is just dumb at this point, it's another example of WWE treating babyfaces weirdly. Drew was to be expected but I think Hardy is an interesting addition to Smackdown and hopefully will give him a bit of a decent end of career run. Charlotte going to Smackdown surprised me, guess Becky is going to Raw then.

    There's the usual weird Draft logic too. Why bother drafting Rhea and Nikki when they're on both shows anyway, seems like a waste of a pick. Why draft Austin Theory and not just 'The Way' and get four for one. By the stables logic couldn't you technically draft 'New Day' which includes Big E considering he only had a match as part of New Day like a week ago, same goes for the 'Bloodline' and Roman but sure. I guess it doesn't matter.

    Hit Row seems a bit premature, not the most ringing endorsement that any major talent is coming up from NXT imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Isn't Johnny Gargano's contract up soon? He'll go a lot further in AEW than he ever will under Vince. So I expect they're not going to call him up unless he signs a new contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Carmella puts on a mask and takes it off 30 seconds later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,286 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Theory being drafted in the show makes him look a big deal. Will they keep him as his dumb character?

    Will the remaining changes from this half be revealed after Monday or over the weekend?

    If I remember correctly, the reason for drafting the women's tag champs is that when they lose the titles they will be members of the roster they were drafted to.

    Seth will probably be drafted to Raw as well and the feud continue, as we've seen in previous years, especially with Sami and KO



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Good point, does make sense for the women's tag titles so. I also thought the Carmella mask was weird, she spent longer putting on the mask than the match itself. Figured it might be a part of her character now but she did take it off straight away.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭ThePott


    More draft choices in. Think it was on Talking Smack they were made. Summed up moves or call ups here and embedded the tweets below.

    Smackdown: Aliyah after being in NXT forever and never making an impact is getting called up to Smackdown. Mace and T-Bar are officially split up. Mustafa Ali and Mansoor are gone to Smackdown as well. Drew Gulak has moved too apparently (had to look up where he was).

    Raw: Gable and Otis are moving over from Smackdown. Zelina Vega is also coming to Raw. Apollo Crews and Commander Azeez is also moving to Raw. All others named are part of the brand already as I recall.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,286 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So Toni can still be ignored



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Amazed some of those wrestlers are still part of wwe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Not hard to ignore Toni Storm, in fairness. She is painfully bland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,286 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I was thinking they should've scheduled a match between her and Naomi then have to cut it due to time and do that every week, ripping off the whole Jimmy Kimmel/Matt Damon thing.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I'm stuck between 2 minds on her. For one it would help if she got some decent bit of exposure on either brand but seems to be very stop start.

    My gut tells me there isn't a superstar there but how can we know unless she gets a run?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,286 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I never saw the big appeal in her either, but I know she's popular. She started to show improvement when she turned heel but now they have her back to being face, going by her brief appearances.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    What's the bettings that after Raw the Draft basically just swaps feuds from Smackdown to Raw or vice versa and they market them as brand new and 'landscape changing'

    Eg: Rollins VS Edge moving to Raw, potentially Nakamura/Boogs joining Apollo/Azeez as well

    It would be typical, lazy, bland WWE nonsense tbf.

    Btw what are they going to do with Charlotte calling herself the Queen when the new tournament is concluded and a winner is announced? 50 bucks says she either wins it herself or begins a feud with the winner over the moniker of 'Queen' and ends up winning that feud so she can be the 'undisputed queen'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    With the draft not kicking in til after Crown Jewel so that might be the end of some fueds

    The brand loyalty nonsense of Survivor Series will be so dumb. Ffs your only on the red or blue brand a few weeks and your fighting for your life representing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    First match of the King Of The Ring Tournament Rey vs Sami Zayn

    other QFs

    Finn Balor vs Cesaro

    Kofi vs Jinder Mahal

    Woods vs Ricochet

    Some very good matches there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Finn v Cesaro if they're left to their own devices could be excellent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Smackdown was a bit odd this week, not sure why. Just felt a little slapdash in places or something.

    The Queen of the Ring is already a bit of a shambles. They had two matches that were given next to no time. I'm not going to say Toni or Liv would suit the Queen gimmick but having both of them lose over Zelina and Carmella is a misplay imo. Toni just started on Smackdown and she already looks a chump. I know some people don't love Toni. I like her enough but I think if nothing else she is a new face and a young talent they should be building on. Liv is over and they never do a thing with her. Already feel like this tournament has been a bust.

    Reigns story is interesing but after watching the Cesaro/Balor match it sort of reminds you that no one has really come out better from feuding with him. They've built nobody up to eventually topple him. I wonder what's even next after Brock, Drew I suppose. It's getting a little old now.

    Really loving the Edge/Rollins feud and it actually feels like a suitable use of the cell. Doubt Sonya and Naomi is actually happening next week. I wouldn't mind Finn winning the KOTR. King Balor has a nice ring to it, evolve him from the Prinxe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Mad King Balor has a nice ring to it



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Yeah Carmella and Zelina is a match that nobody ever asked for tbh. Both are heels too so why? King of the Ring is better fixed, I agree on Balor being a good fit for winning. He could evolve into a cocky heel after ascending his throne. I wonder with the final being at Crown Jewel might we see the 'Demon King' or something like that.

    The reason I think Smackdown is all over the place is because you have a roster switch taking place in 2 weeks therefore the matches mean absolutely zip. Rollins/Edge obviously being the standout.

    Crown Jewel is absolutely stacked I have to say, I'm going to find it tough not to watch it as between Hell in A Cell, Big E/McIntyre, Becky/Sasha/Bianca, King and Queen of the Ring Finals and Roman/Brock I think it's gonna be a very good PPV... sportswashing issues aside



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Fair point, the roster switch is making things a bit strange cuase they're building to a PPV and making people seem a big deal on a show they're leaving in 2 weeks and trying to hype new people coming in.

    Crown Jewel does look good alright, shame it's a Saudi show really.



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