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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I am not sure Will Leahy is?

    From my understanding many of the contractors get a 5 year contract from RTÉ, though at this point all of the above would be outside any 5 year contract. I thought Dan Hegerty was still on 2FM?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Re Contracts

    Can anyone explain the thing surrounding that DJ that left RTÉ, an no longer works on Junior Eurovision or Love Island.... where is the media on this.... they don't even ask his replacement how the feel to be stepping into his shoes ... why all the tip toeing .... so much so that another thread was deleted from boards .... so we prob should tip toe ... but anyone want to explain this tip toeing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,839 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Due to the seriousness of the allegations. Obviously. But these allegations catch up. We saw that with the homeless charity fellow who took his own life, and is now the subject of a serious report.

    Plus nothing can be done unless someone comes forward. As in the case of Anthony Flynn, many people had come forward to detail the very serious allegations made against him. And they came forward while he was alive too.

    Unless someone comes forward, nothing can be said or done. And to discuss it here would only get boards into trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Do you not think it is odd. I have never seen it like this before. I agree that due process has to be provided but not a single report. It's like the media have just kind of gone silent on it, like very hush-hush more hush-hush than ever before. I will leave it at that but very strange. And the other thread deletion rather than just a closure!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Got home from work and as I walked in the door, rte were showing an ad for a new show called Cocooned.

    Remember how scared and unhappy we all were during the pandemic? The uncertainty, the constant bombardment of death tolls and infection rate and stay safe and two more weeks. Well, as great as it is that the world is going back to normal, don't worry because rte are here to show you just how sad you were. You may not remember every difficult moment, but rte is here to remind you.

    I heard mention on the radio during the week of people questioning telly people being allowed into the hospitals during the pandemic. Guess this new show must be from that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,106 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Search on "new" boards is fcuked so pretty much any thread not being actively posted on may as well have gone down the memory hole. This seems to be a feature not a bug... makes it a lot easier for threads asking awkward questions to just go away.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,839 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Oh it's completely suspicious. Majorly so. But we saw all sorts of 'hush hush' and 'we didn't know' surrounding Jimmy Saville, or Harvey Weinstein. (I know they are extreme examples, but still). Anthony Flynn had credible allegations made against him whilst he was alive. But he was left-wing, so wouldn't surprise me if they were brushed under the table as 'the ravings of a homeless junkie' by his friends.

    People who market an 'agenda' are so quick to ignore disgusting stuff happening in front of them. We've seen it time and time again. The silence is often deafening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,839 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Man, two of RTE's 'much hyped' shows are tanking in the ratings.

    The Rotunda, and 'yer wan from Love Island's' TV show are dying on their butts.

    Another 'success' for Dee.

    https://www.sundayworld.com/showbiz/irish-showbiz/rtes-new-make-up-show-fronted-by-maura-higginssuffers-further-drop-in-viewers-40890713.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,598 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    34k viewers - any other station would just drop it there and then but RTE says its doing really well on the player that never works so every time someone goes to watch it it stops and you have to start over again....ahhhh I see a plan here....it's broken by design...

    (some might say surely they record the IP, I laugh in your face)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,839 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    If it was an American show they'd imported, it would be dumped to midnight or sometime in the early am's, like they have done with too many shows I could name.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,372 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Is there any verifiable numbers for viewers of shows or even users of the RTE player? Like 3rd party numbers, similar to JNLR or something.

    That does seem like something that would be a lot easier to just make numbers up for, instead of TV viewers - "We had 500,000 viewers of it on the player in Aug 2021, no more questions"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    TAM Ireland provide the live figures and Viewing On Same Day As Live (VOSDAL)

    TAM Ireland had planned to incorporate 7 day viewing figures + 28day viewing figures after the show launched. (BARB in the UK provide this in their figures)

    They are not doing well because they are on RTÉ2, which has no promotion, they have no promotion and even the 30,000 extra on the player should be considered bad, this is the kind of audience that a RTÉ ONE +1 gets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    "The way people watch programmes like Glow Up and 'The Rotunda' have changed," RTÉ said in a statement.

    "Last week's third episode had an average of 57,700 viewers - Live + Vosdal. The viewing figures increased as the episode progressed and had a reach of 134,600. The show did well among women aged 15-34 and had a 20% share in the category.

    "Glow Up Ireland has been doing really well on RTÉ Player - with over 60K streams for eps 1-3 to date, making the top 15 most popular shows on RTÉ Player since launch."

    _______________________________________

    57,700 is an average over the course of the programme

    Reach I am not sure what they are talking about, if it is just TAM Ireland reach, it is purely how many viewers it reached over the course of the episode live.

    "Really well" on the "Player" 60,000 streams for 1-3 eps, is that 60,000 for each episode or 20,000. Even still this isn't great, especially if your Number 15 show is only getting 60,000 viewers.

    This tells me viewing habits are changing but not to the RTÉ Player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,106 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    When a new series like that is heavily promoted you'd expect a reasonable number of people to watch the first one out of curiosity, an average of 57k likely means the later episodes are far, far below that.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Serena Enough Pension


    To do “research” as he does absolutely no preparation whatsoever. Unlike Gaybo in his day.



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Serena Enough Pension


    It’s going to be fun & games when the outdated TV license is replaced by a “broadcasting” or “enjoyment of media” license/fee/tax. How would they do it? Every household which has a fixed device, eg broadband or tv? Every individual adult with a device? Who or where will the exemptions apply to? Will it be applied as an add-on little percentage to income tax under the assumption that every working person has access to media and can afford it? Or should it just be absorbed into general taxes which may have to be tweaked (read “raised”) to accommodate it? I think probably the latter? How will likes of Tubridy the man in the bubble, Darcy the button dinger, or Duffy who still hadn’t mastered a single language, be paid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,598 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    There is something to be said for if everyone has to pay it its akin to a tax and those receiving it should be paid in line with other state bodies, no excuses for anyone on near half a million a year to bumble their way thru an hour or so of radio "presenting" a day



  • Posts: 11,642 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ray could easily go to the UK and get a decent gig.









    He does have a HGV license, doesn't he?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 8,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    You can just imagine the squad cars arriving, sirens blaring 😂. Not. How the hell would anyone believe that rubbish!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Do you think it will change this budget... lets face it ... it won't :) .... I will eat my hat if the new taxation is introduced in 2022 more likely 2023 if they are lucky.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,460 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Not a chance I hope.

    Cart before horse.

    We need to decide what sort of Public Broadcasting Service we want first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    RTE’s Joe Duffy hit out at crime dramas like Love/Hate and Kin for ‘exploiting’ real people’s lives and having actors put on ‘thick Dublin accents’.

    “I hate their travails being exploited by middle-class actors who are putting on their thick working-class Dublin accents and then go back to eating foie gras during their lunch break,” he told RTE Guide before the show hit screens earlier this month.

    You have to love good 'auld Joe, suppose you can only eat "foie gras" with an authentic Dublin Accent, before getting on national radio to "exploit" almost everyone for an audience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    That Glow-Up rubbish. So what happened. Presumably little or no research done to see if it would be a viable project or not. Lots of our money spent on what was basically a test run, which ultimately failed. Any heads rolling for yet another massive fail? I doubt it. Seems you have to get caught red-handed trying to bang a 12yo girl in the UK to receive any sanction in the RTE party club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,106 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The sheer feckin' cheek of Duffy spouting that shyte with him on his 450k a year for riling up callers and inciting vulnerable people into making fools out of themselves on air.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,839 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Still waiting for him to leave the country because Enda Kenny was Taoiseach...

    ...still waiting...

    ...happily pay for the ticket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,598 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Just after watching the new show Cocooned and it was all very staged - how long have RTE been planning to inflict this on us

    Wasn't the kind of show I was expecting where everyone in the show was obviously paid to play their parts and be in the right position for the cameras i.e. make sure you're by the window and the curtain is pulled back while we film your absolute fear


    Dunno if a show just full of "private" conversations actually makes a show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Will never be a tax as then each year their payment from the gov will be a fixed, "here you go" amount.....which doesnt fit into Dee's "spend first, account later" style of leadership. How on earth would she excuse colossal overspend and incessant loses each year if she has no "but but but De Government didnt collect all de license fees for us" to fall back on?



    Ah me heart bleeds for the the poor fella, have to wipe all those salty tears away with his massive "working-class" paycheques 🙄


    Whats the bets, if you trawled through his show years back during Love/Hates run, he probably gushed over it and sang its praises?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,839 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Had a google, he wasn't fond of Love Hate in it's initial run.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Every Monday Afternoon didn't he used it as an item on his show.



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