How to fix the traveller community

As someone mentioned above, if they simply start doing what the rest of us do, then the problems will gradually solve themselves.

Its all abut education, education, education.

If traveller kids were sent to school every day as normal, and they were allowed to complete school to 18, and go to college like the rest of us, then they would start to blend into normal population, would start getting jobs like the rest of us, paying taxes like the rest of us, crime rates among them would decrease etc etc....and in time they will be like the rest of the working population.

Unfortunately, I think getting the kids educated as per normal looks like something that is very difficult to achieve. Through their doing, not the rest of us.

It's something I've thought about and it's hard to know how to fix the issues.

I think firstly whatever happens it will take years to fix.

Education is important and I do feel for a lot who drop out more of a vocational accept should be added for starters.

Travellers on social media showing themselves fighting, calling each other out, wrecking stuff have caused harm.

Programs such as My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding where they say you never ask a traveller about money whilst having a big lavish wedding has had a negative effect on the community.

The previous presidential election has being mentioned with Peter Casey. I think lots of people who'd say they'd have no issues living near a halting site or even just generally people who constantly defend travellers aren't helping the community either.

Ya i ve come across a few of the boys doing the bareknuckle in the boxing world too and they come under enormous pressure from thier own people to get involved in feuds and the that sort of neanderthal stuff , its the rare lad doesn't end up tossing a boxing career for a plastic bag of money and fight in a car park. I know a few lads play hurling at a high level too but fell to the pressure from inside the community too in the end.

Again its the majority that garnered the reputation that the minority are lumbered with but its up to the traveller community it self to fix that not the settled one. there are vast resources thrown at the problems that are just soaked up.

it also has to be said that there isnt as much as people think worth saving in traveller heritage , no offence but they haven't contributed as much as some would like you have to believe . Im all for people having their beliefs and traditions but not so much paying for them

How much does the modern traveller lifestyle match the traditional traveller culture? What differentiates travellers from people living in a disadvantaged area of Dublin?

What is the alternative in reality? SF vodoo economics that would probably double welfare . PBP silver spoon socialist Narnia?

FG's abandonment of working people to cosy up to pensioners votes and a slice of the idle vote is annoying but ( ironically ) I see SF like SF see the DUP, a whining mass of grumbling fools I have nothing in common with who offer no solutions to anything.

As to the OP's questions, changing Paver Point modus operandi might be a start.

'Traditional' traveller culture was living on the roadside in horse drawn caravans, mending pots and pans and doing manual work for farmers all of which are extinct.

Being out in all weathers, short hard lives and high infant mortality, fun times.

Why anyone would put their kids and their own health at risk living the modern version of this in a prefab or caravan these days for the sake of 'tradition' is beyond me.

The CAB part is happening. Look at Newbridge latest raid just last week.

Plenty of travellers in business although what percent are fully legit I don’t know. There needs to be a separation of traveller definition. Many have accountants in the town and buy huge swathes of property for rental. So clearly support is not necessary. That’s the legitimate business but where the money comes from first, nobody asks. A quick look for names on planning permission on kildare county council site will confirm this.

In my own town there are 2 types. Those with truly vast wealth, more than you can imagine, some legitimate, some CAB has begun to take. Then there is a quite family in a halting site in the same town (they genuinely choose to live there) that are poor beyond most settled poor. They need the full support of the state to educate and help them. And I have seen the dad bring his kids daily to school. He keeps clear of the other families (not related to the other ones anyway).

The problem is both of these, poor and wealthy are getting similar supports because they are travellers. We all see the injustice in this. The wealthy traveller families don’t send their kids past primary school. There is a few in the local tec but they tend not to last long. On any given day, you will see the teenage girls outside the primary school waiting to collect their brothers and sisters. That’s wrong.

cant see any of that happening anytime soon, why would they even want to go into legitimate business?

cant believe you're not trolling after calling bare knuckle boxers 'athletes of our culture' when if that was true, you may aswell call a colored fella swinging a machete into his 'opps' a fine showing of African culture.

Ultimately like a junkie, change has to come from within. It has to be wanted. With travellers that's just non-existent, sorry.