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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭KBurke85



    Injury info here. Thornbury out long term with a shoulder injury



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Great great news about LH prop!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Not good for Thornbury but Dowling looks fit.


    I'd have no SH on the bench in the situation, and put Healy in n°21 for 2 games before Caolin is back

    Marmion can play 80 and Matt will provide cover only if needed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Seems like a big list already. Good opportunity for Murray and Dowling and the Academy sh,s.

    Training must be hot and heavy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    So something like:


    1. Jordan Duggan
    2. Shane Delahunt
    3. Finlay Bealham
    4. Ultan Dillane
    5. Niall Murray
    6. Cian Prendergast
    7. Conor Oliver
    8. Paul Boyle
    9. Kieran Marmion
    10. Jack Carty
    11. Ben O'Donnell
    12. Tom Daly
    13. Sam Arnold
    14. John Porch
    15. Tiernan O'Halloran
    16. Dave Heffernan
    17. Matt Burke
    18. Jack Aungier
    19. Oisin Dowling
    20. Jarrad Butler
    21. Will Reilly
    22. Conor Fitzgerald
    23. Tom Farrell

    Hooker could go either way, Delahunt had serious wobbles at the lineout against Irish but was great all last season. Not a great balance in the second row but we don't have much in the line of tighthead locks available. It's likely that one or both of Masterson and Butler will start for leadership, but I went with the form players in the backrow. The coaches will obviously have a good read on whether Farrell is ready to start but I've conservatively opted to ease him in from the bench. Hard to call the back 3, think it's Porch + Wootton + another but with Wootton injured it's wide open.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Loosehead


    Denis Buckley (31) - Signed contract in 2021

    Matthew Burke (24) - Signed contract in 2021

    Jordan Duggan (23) - Signed contract in 2021


    Charlie Ward (21) - Academy year 2


    Tighthead


    Jack Aungier (22) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    Finlay Bealham (30) - Signed contract in 2021

    Sam Illo (20) - Signed 2 year contract in 2021

    Greg McGrath (24) - Signed contract in 2021

    Dominic Robertson-McCoy (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020


    Hooker


    Shane Delahunt (27) - Signed contract in 2021

    Dave Heffernan (30) - Signed contract in 2021

    Jonny Murphy (29) - Signed contract in 2021

    Dylan Tierney-Martin (22) - Signed contract in 2021


    Declan Adamson (22) - Academy year 3

    Eoin De Buitléar (19) - Academy year 2


    Lock


    Ultan Dillane (27) - Signed contract in 2021

    Oisin Dowling (24) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    Leva Fifita (32) - Signed contract in 2021

    Niall Murray (21) - Signed contract in 2021

    Gavin Thornbury (27) - Signed contract in 2021


    Darragh Murray (20) - Academy year 2


    Back row


    Paul Boyle (24) - Signed contract in 2021

    Jarrad Butler (30) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    Eoghan Masterson (28) - Signed contract in 2021

    Sean Masterson (23) - Signed contract in 2021

    Conor Oliver (25) - Signed contract in 2021

    Abraham Papali’i (28) - Signed contract in 2021

    Cian Prendergast (21) - Signed contract in 2021


    Ciaran Booth (21) - Academy year 2

    Donnacha Byrne (20) - Academy year 2

    Oisin McCormack (20) - Academy year 3


    Scrumhalf


    Caolin Blade (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    Kieran Marmion (29) - Signed 3 year contract in 2020

    Colm Reilly (22) - Signed contract in 2021


    Will Reilly (u21) - Academy year 1


    Outhalf


    Jack Carty (29) - Signed contract in 2021

    Conor Fitzgerald (23) - Signed contract in 2021


    Cathal Forde (19) - Academy year 2


    Centre


    Bundee Aki (31) - Signed 3 year central contract in 2020

    Sammy Arnold (25) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    Shayne Bolton (21) - Signed contract in 2021

    Tom Daly (28) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    Tom Farrell (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    Peter Robb (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020


    Shane Jennings (20) - Academy year 3


    Back 3


    Mack Hansen (23) - Signed 2 year contract in 2021

    Matt Healy (32) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    Oran McNulty (21) - Signed contract in 2021

    Ben O'Donnell (26) - Signed contract in 2020

    Tiernan O'Halloran (30) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

    John Porch (27) - Signed contract in 2021

    Peter Sullivan (23) - Signed contract in 2021

    Alex Wootton (27) - Signed contract in 2021


    Diarmuid Kilgallen (21) - Academy year 2

    Josh O'Connor (20) - Academy year 1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Bolton may be the surprise call for 23 at least



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Seems a powerful runner but I thought he was caught out quite badly in defence a couple of times vs Irish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    May need time to overcome a really good pairing like Farrell/Daly, but Sam Arnold is, yes for now maybe more cohesive, but not more talented IMO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    I don't really understand why loosehead signing took so long, but hopefully it's a very experienced player. I see media reporting that Butler will be "club" captain but may not always captain the team when playing as they want to develop younger leaders, seems unusual.


    Squad looks shallow enough already even with loosehead incoming, will likely need academy players to step up very often this season.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Seems it was difficult because they were only offering a one year deal. Not sure why, even with Buckley back we could still use another quality option beyond this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Kind of excited for this season, think it’ll go better than most expect. Oisin McCormack could be one to surprise a few this year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Things are certainly looking brighter with the news that a loosehead is incoming. I too am excited about McCormack especially becasue that seven jersey is up for grabs. Hoping that Cathal Forde get a good crack at the first team as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    looks like Forde is being lined up as a 12, he’d have a much easier path at 10



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Looking forward to the season, but my levels of expectation are very low. Losing Quinn was a big blow, but to start the season with those injuries, especially to Thornbury is a huge concern. I can see us getting bullied quite badly unfortunately, but obviously hope I'm wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR




  • Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sure you were never a fan of Quins. You used call him a penalty machine from the Clan Terrace



  • Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Very undecided on this.

    Would be a great day out, but unfortunately, it won't suit a huge amount of fans.

    I imagine there's a push from the IRFU to do it. Will increase the profits, definitely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭BrokenMan


    I'm not impressed at all. Extra cost and time of getting to the Aviva and losing a home game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭testtech05


    I think I agree with you to be honest, it wont suit me to travel to it due to family commitments and I am not sure would I have made it had the game been left in Galway but there was a better chance.

    Obviously its great for any fans outside the province but essentially losing a home game in what looks like being a tough season is a big risk.

    Hopefully we get a win and make loads of money :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭Redo91


    Not a fan of that. Have family around that weekend and we were all planning on heading to the game at the sportsground. Not going to bother heading up to Dublin for a “home” game.

    Also it is first home inter-pro with fans in god knows how long and will be the first with full capacity since February 2020 and they go moving it out of the SG?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,735 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Seem to be aiming for 20/30k at game so seems like a numbers game. Wonder are are expecting a fair few neutrals in that figure. Talk of a change in kick off time but seems to be the same as far as I can see?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Sucks to lose a home game but I imagine this is a revenue generating decision from the IRFU on the back of lost profits from the last 18 months. Will be interesting to see if it's a one off or will all the other provinces lose a home game at some point during the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    provinces have the option to use lansdowne if they wish, connacht have taken up the offer, as have leinster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,735 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Think it's also timing of restrictions and game. If easing of restrictions are delayed (which is unlikely) could be 50% capacity so difference between 4k in Sportsground and 25k in Lansdowne Road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,553 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Leinster host their home games in Dublin, they moving their game/s to the Avivia has no little or no impact for fans. Any other Irish province moving there will have an impact on fans travelling from their home province, obviously, this game will suit fans based in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    Who said differently? Connacht have decided to take the potential big payday in dublin overplaying in galway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    Connacht fans have proven more than capable of making any neutral ground their own in the past. Also let's not forget the result the last time the two met in the aviva...

    Have to laugh at everyone dying to see Connacht play again, but not if they have to travel a wee bit up the road to do it. Put your big boy pants on, hop in the car/bus/train and go turn the Aviva green...

    If it helps the province shore up the coffers after a long period of severely reduced income, all the better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Strand1970


    Only about 45mins additional travel time for fans from Sligo. Not too bad



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭Redo91


    Also let’s not forget that the last time we played them in the Aviva there were no fans so that result is irrelevant. Ulster fans will significantly outnumber Connacht fans. This has more than halved their journey for the match when most Connacht are having to travel 2 and a half hours.

    Plus it’s not as simple as just telling people to head up to Dublin and get over it. I have family visiting from abroad that weekend and we all planned to go to the game. We won’t be now as going to it would take up so much of their time when they are back. They are expecting people from Connacht to travel to Dublin in the middle of a bank holiday weekend for what was supposed to be a home game.

    I think this decision actually shows a serious lack of ambition too. We are giving up home advantage and therefore reducing our chances of reaching the play-offs. Why would you do that if you have aspirations to get there?

    Finally, I think the financial benefit of this is being over estimated. I don’t think there will be more than 20k at this. Possibly closer to 15k. They could have sold out the SG at 8k. Is the difference really worth it?

    The reaction to this has been more negative than positive so I know I am not the only one that feels this way.



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