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What are some of your unpopular cycling related opinions?

  • 20-09-2021 2:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,124 ✭✭✭daragh_


    Have we done one of these threads yet? Anyone want to go first.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    Sock length doesn't matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    I hate being called a cyclist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭Plastik


    I don't like Alaphilippe.

    And I don't know why, probably because of Rob Hatch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭cletus


    This is one of mine. Closely followed by you don't have to shave your legs.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Outside of time trials, equipment makes shag all difference. You'll get the same result on bog standard aluminium frame with allow wheels and 105 as you will on a €10,000 superbike.

    Also, disc brakes and tan sidewalls need to be killed with fire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    Disc brakes are overkill on a road bike. Purely a money spinner with no benefit to road cyclists.



  • Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭MediaMan


    It's not all about how fast you can get up a hill

    Tubeless for road is good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    A couple hundred quid for a bike fit is worth a lot more than a new set of carbon wheels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    i love disc brakes ,actually I love hydraulic brakes in general but not wearing out rims is a massive bonus.

    i cant see the point of tubeless (having just taken one off an mtb and it must have had half a kg of water in it)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was curious tubeless on a road tyre, if you have to plug it is there not a risk it will get pushed out due to the higher pressures they are run at? Like cars and mtbs would only be around 30 psi or so but road tyres would be multiples of that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Carrying two bike locks is not worth the hassle. Just insure the bike instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    Taking it handy is more enjoyable and fun than going fasshhhhtttt!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Triathletes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Can I add

    Its better to invest in comfort than speed.....

    (Why does it matter if you are going at 34k per hour or 37k per hour).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭comete


    Most people don’t need a power meter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Running is harder than cycling.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's just a fact and and not just the effort, my knees and Achilles tendons will attest to that. Some injuries and frankly stupidity in not looking after myself mean I couldn't run to warm myself these days. You need to rest on a bike? Stop peddling and you'll still move most of the time.

    Can't recall where I read this and maybe I'm not actually recalling it correctly, something along the lines of you need to cover 3 times the distance of a run on the bike to get close to the same effort?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭DonegalBay


    Said this during the Tour and got plenty of flak for it so definitely belongs here.

    Sprinters are grossly over-rated and get a disproportionate number of chances to win races, overinflating their real abilities.

    Sprint stages in Grand Tours are boring and worthless and if I was running the UCI, they would be eliminated or kept to a minimum, maybe 1/2 per Grand Tour, 1 in the first week and the final stage perhaps. Would also probably help cut down on crashes as well.

    Wheelsucking your way to the final 500m is not particularly amazing or noteworthy, considering everyone in a given race can pretty much do that. I do have respect for the likes of Sagan, Boonen, Zabel or sprinters pre-Cipollini era who didn't have dedicated sprint trains and could actually race a bit, but Cipollini, Cavendish etc, uhhh awful. Still irks me that such limited pros were World Champion, especially when it was 95% down to their respective teams.

    Have barely watched a sprint stage since the mid 90s. Sprinters, go and race against the real sprinters on the track.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    'They all think they're in the Tour de France'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Hmmm. I would possibly argue that the GT contenders have a 'non-skill based' advantage merely because of their physique meaning achieving winning levels of power to weight ratings are possible for them while they aren't for most. Some of the more skillful riders could never realistically target GT's for this reason.

    So maybe my unpopular opinion would be that a strong palmares including classics victories is more deserving of respect than a couple of GT podiums. The length of the GT's obviously play a significant part rather than any individual stage but who is a more skillful or impressive rider? Peter Sagan or Chris Froome?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,267 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    In the moment sure, but it would be rare for me to go for a 7 hour run :)


    I think a decent climb is harder than run. Flat cycling is very much easier than running. I found the Etape far harder than the marathon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Taking it handy on descents is actually fine.


    Your bike can be worth less than your car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭gn3dr


    Dropped seat stays on new bikes are sh1t looking and the myth that they are for comfort is also bs. Just buy a TCR or other sloping top tubed frame to have a bit of seat post flex.

    Also disc brakes on road bikes are just marketing and not needed. How much descending for long periods in wet weather are people actually doing....


    Oh yeah - long socks are for footballers 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    Tho Everytime I brake on my carbon rims I wish I'd discs

    I also think random wheel sucking strangers when I'm out on a solo ride are just weird, at least say hello first...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For all you disc haters even Ineos are moving to disc braked Pinarello bikes next year. Nothing to with Shimano's latest offerings of course 😁



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,175 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Expensive bike fits are a waste of time for most people unless you're strangely proportioned.



  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭ARX


    I found the simple life ain't so simple when I jumped out on that road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Disc Brakes are the biggest divide of opinion amongst the cycling community, so hardly an "unpopular" opinion to diss them!

    Running takes more of a toll on the body, but does that make it harder? Aerobically running isn't harder. I haven't really run regularly in a couple of years, but I can still knock out a decent 10km time based on my cycling fitness. When I was doing triathlon, I knocked out my 10km PR in a race having not ran for 2 months due to ITB, and only done the bike! When I focused on running for periods, fitness never carried from running to the bike as well.

    I guess mine is that I actually like the Turbo, and it's not just for wet and/ or dark days when you can't get out. If you have the right set up.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭ARX




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    i live in donegal........

    i dont miss cleaning aluminium slurry off my wheels and frame


    dropped seat stays and the new hope british cycling bike look crap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭comete


    Xc bikes are more versatile than gravel bikes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Finnrocco


    Socks should be ankle length, and it should be a rule enforced strictly.

    Absolutely hate those calf length yokes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭midonogh


    In the future we will look back and consider the recent years to be a period where we produced ugly bikes: discs, dropped seat stays, aero frames, oversized box tubes and head tubes, curved forks, Di2 batteries.

    All have sacrificed aesthetics for meaningless gains.

    Think a 1980's Escort XR3, or Opel Corsa with post factory added flared wheel arches, power bulges and over sized rear spoiler. I will admit I thought they looked good at the time, but now look back and ask myself what were we thinking.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Cycling is not an interesting sport to watch



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,050 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Recently got a Trek Domane 2 because it was the best spec I could afford. Definitely the best bike I ever had but god do I hate how it looks compared to my "crappy" old Barracuda Tifosi.

    I also hate all these black parts on a bike. I miss chrome handlebars and brake calipers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭statto25


    Long socks for life



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭secman




  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭Jeremy Sproket


    Cyclists should pay road tax !! Ducks for cover



  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭Jeremy Sproket


    Cyclists should make no apologies for holding the lane or whatever it's called, even if it is on a wide stretch of open road. Anything to prevent close passes.

    Cyclists are traffic too ....we don't "hold traffic up".

    We need assumed liability laws here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Cyclists that push past me at traffic lights and proceed through the junction (when the lights are red) really piss me off!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭gn3dr


    2x10 speed is peak number of gears.

    11 speed is annoying because it isn't an even number

    12 speed is unnecessary

    🙉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    There's too much attention to competitiveness in cycling, and the community is a bit too prone to being macho. We can be our own worst enemy a lot of the time.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,175 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭WOT


    Battery powered lights are silly compared to fit and forget dynamo powered lights.



  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭MyDarkArts


    Sean Kelly should be forbidden from quoting unnamed sources when he's passing on accepted wisdom and cliché while doing commentary.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    More of a commuting comment that a sports cycling comment but racers are crap bikes for commuting on. They are uncomfortable in a suit and your body position on them makes sudden stops more dangerous.

    A Dutch style upright bike is just a completely better option and the Government should import them en masse and give them away for free....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Cant agree with this, having done lots of both.

    In short, it all depends on how fast you are going.

    Running a 5k in 15 minutes is not the same as running a 5k in 25 minutes is not the same as running a 5k in 35minutes.

    What I would agree with though is that with running, its easier to put in a High Intensity work out. 8 x 200m sprints is hard to replicate on a bike. Maybe cycling up the hill in Howth at max speed possible would be close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,050 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Or worse cyclists who repeatedly push past to stop ahead of you at a red and are going 5kph on some big lug of an old bike.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Silas Attractive Detergent


    Most people don't need lycra to cycle.



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