What If...? - Disney+ (Spoilers)

Penn · 11-09-2021 1:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117876158#Comment_117876158

I'm guessing in different universes of the multiverse, there are different fixed points. Since Strange had to have the crash to make him go to the Ancient One to become a sorcerer and in that What If universe Christine was going to the meal/dinner thing with him and was in the car, her death was the fixed point that made him seek out the Ancient One rather than damaging his hands.

EoinMcLovin · 15-09-2021 2:05pm

Good episode this week and I'm guessing they will continue this later this season based of the mid season teaser released yesterday

https://youtu.be/1dOx38iLreg

Slydice · 15-09-2021 10:35pm

Probably gonna avoid the trailer.. the episodes feel too short to give it a watch

1.6: That was decent. Guessing this universe could reappear

with Killmonger as the Black Panther but also possibly Petter Potts as Rescue really souped up by Shuri

Was nice to hear the voice of

Chadwick Boseman again

expectationlost · 15-09-2021 11:25pm

it was Peppers turn for the voice not to match the lips.

Penn · 16-09-2021 10:41am

I think one of my biggest issues with these is just the pacing. Big setups and plot points move so quickly or are waved away with a line or two and not given time to breathe, particularly when they don't have the proper voice actors. Obidiah Stane being completely removed so quickly, Tony instantly trusts Killmonger and then moving to making him robotic drones, that all happened in the space of about 3 minutes.

I still enjoy the show, but it's little more than a bit of fluff to pass the time rather than doing something truly interesting with the premise.

AMKC · 17-09-2021 7:32pm

I did not think this weeks episode was that good but I also had no idea who your man was that wanted all the robots and then turned out to be bad.

Penn · 17-09-2021 8:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117905485#Comment_117905485

Killmonger? He was the villain in Black Panther. One of the best villains in the MCU.

CastorTroy · 17-09-2021 8:32pm

Have you seen Black Panther?

Slydice · 17-09-2021 9:21pm

Yeah Black Panther is great. Definite recommend!

AMKC · 17-09-2021 9:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117905688#Comment_117905688

Awe OK. Ye it's been a while do.

AMKC · 17-09-2021 9:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117905697#Comment_117905697

I have it's been a while do.

EoinMcLovin · 21-09-2021 6:07pm

https://twitter.com/RottenTomatoes/status/1440345080699650063?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1440345080699650063%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbr.com%2Fwhat-if-thor-clip-skrulls-grandmaster%2F

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CastorTroy · 22-09-2021 12:43pm

Darcy doing her best Lea Thompson impression.

Interesting ending. Could be the first one to get a follow up episode especially since The Watcher seemed thrown.

22-09-2021 3:47pm

Apart from the final few moments that was terrible

Loughc · 22-09-2021 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117924525#Comment_117924525

Definitely the weakest episode yet.

Penn · 22-09-2021 3:52pm

That was rough. It was more like fanfic than anything else.

FunLover18 · 23-09-2021 12:05pm

I enjoyed the Thor, very light hearted. Felt like we saw an episode from a Thor sitcom in another universe.

I love skipping the opening credits and trying to guess who came back to do voice work. Was shocked to see that that was actually Nathalie Portman as Jane, I was convinced it wasn't her. I'd love to know what really went on between her and Marvel, it seemed like Jane was never going to return for a long time.

Bacchus · 23-09-2021 2:01pm

That Thor episode was by far the weakest. It was fine, but felt quite pointless and a bit OTT with almost every space faring character getting cameos. Thor was an only child so now Nebula is a party girl? Meh. I found the Captain Marvel - Thor interactions fun, a lot of wink wink nudge nudge in it :)

That ending though. I'm looking forward to the follow up to that. I really like how they are slowly building in these little nuggets that can be returned to in the context of the whole multiverse - in particular Strange and now Ultron.

Penn · 23-09-2021 2:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117928371#Comment_117928371

I think it was Thor The Dark World and everything that went on with it. It was supposed to be Patty Jenkins directing, but when she exited, pretty much everything went to sh*t. Nobody was really happy with the movie (even Anthony Hopkins gives a pretty phoned-in performance with the exception of Frigga's funeral scene). But overall it soured Natalie Portman's relationship with Marvel and I think she felt she wasn't getting what she wanted out of the films (being the character Thor saves rather than having an interesting character herself).

Now when it comes to Thor 4: More Thor, she has a much better story and character to play.

flazio · 23-09-2021 5:04pm

I was nearly sure that the voice actors for Amidala or Mace Windu (Portman and Jackson's characters in the Star Wars movies who had separate voice actors in the Clone Wars cartoon) would have to stand in for What If. Fun fact though Drax was played by prominent voice actor Fred Tatasciore who among loads of other roles is known to current Trekkies as Lieutenant Shax on Star Trek Lower Decks.

So basically, Shax is Drax and Drax is Shax 😄

CastorTroy · 23-09-2021 5:12pm

I haven't figured out any pattern for when people do their own characters. I assumed those who still have an active role in the MCU would do the voicework (but doesn't seem to be the case for some of the GotG) and those who just enjoy playing the character like Haley Atwell.

flazio · 23-09-2021 6:04pm

It's down to just who's available/affordable/interested basically. Like Tom Holland would have been busy with No Way Home and Uncharted, RDJ and Paltrow were probably uninterested. This was recorded long before the Black Widow release debacle so that has nothing to do with Scar Jo's no show. It's not a deal breaker anyway, I mean Clone Wars worked just fine without the vast majority of it's movie stars.

FunLover18 · 23-09-2021 6:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117930139#Comment_117930139

There's probably some truth to this bit I think Dave Bautista came out recently and said that he wasn't asked. Some people have speculated because he was the most vocal when Gunn was fired.

Slydice · 23-09-2021 9:36pm

7: That was hilarious! 😁 All the character reminders and nods.

all until the end! Yikes! Ultron with the full Infinity Gauntlet!! Now that has gotta be reappearing at some point in the future!!

AMKC · 23-09-2021 11:38pm

I enjoyed that. It was a fun episode and in my opinion not the weakest episode. There was a worse episode number 3 or 4 can't remember now but one of them was just crap really.

EoinMcLovin · 24-09-2021 10:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117930865#Comment_117930865

Regarding that last moment

That was Vision in a Ultron suit. I wonder if it's the Vision from the Zombies episode since Thanos was a zombie

Bacchus · 24-09-2021 10:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117932061#Comment_117932061

<spoiler>It's Ultron in a Vision suit though. The Vision body was created as a vessal for Ultron. It looks like in that universe he achieved that. The backstory to that would be cool to see. Some of the stones are obvious how he came by them as they were on Earth (Space, Mind, Time) but the others were off-world. The Soul stone in particular... he'd have to have stolen that one from someone else who retrieved it.</spoiler>

ok... how do you spoiler things on the boards "upgrade"? Spoilers are in the thread title though TBH.

Penn · 24-09-2021 10:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117932165#Comment_117932165

Highlight the text you want to spoiler, click on the icon on the left of the text box (the Paragraph icon thing that's from Microsoft Word, don't know what it's called, the backwards P thingy), click the inverted commas icon, then the option for spoiler formatting should show up.

Because that's apparantly easier than the way it used to be where you just clicked the Spoiler button.

EoinMcLovin · 24-09-2021 10:54am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117932165#Comment_117932165

Completely forgot about that

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058199126/how-can-i-a-users-guide-to-the-new-site

That post should show how to find spoiler button

EoinMcLovin · 28-09-2021 7:28pm

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1442896893395230721?s=19

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29-09-2021 1:30pm

Now THAT was good. That was very very good.

gmisk · 29-09-2021 5:55pm

That was a brilliant episode this week!

After the series lowlight last week, this was by far best to so far imo

flazio · 29-09-2021 7:04pm

Very high concept.

I hope this series isn't used to undo anything in the MCU that's gone before.

Slydice · 29-09-2021 7:44pm

8: Oh that was good. Really bringing alot of the stories together... but I guess with just one episode left.. it sure would need to! 🙂

Hilarious moment when

Thanos pops in and is instantly taken care of .. can't help but think Vision could've probably done that too

So then..

Big bust up with The Watcher, (Evil?/Grey area?) Dr Strange, Zola and Black Widow vs Ultron. I'm guessing there's gotta be more characters turning up too.

Moment of the episode I have to give to

Hawkeye going out in a scene that was so much like Vormir but with that added epic heroic still moment of him descending in the light with the archer pose.

AMKC · 30-09-2021 10:31am

I actually thought this episode was quiet slow to get going and a bit boring for a while but when it did yes what an episode.

Hawkeye seemed to lack the will to live whereas Black Widow was still on for it. Imagine being that close to the answer and giving up. I would say after Ultron found out about the watcher and where he was that the watcher must have regretted not helping Hawkeye in that moment. It could have been the defining moment maybe them few seconds or minutes would have been enough for there plan to work instead of Ultron being too far away when they done it.

Also it's strange that Ultron destroyed all the other worlds he came across but yet he did not totally obliterate Earth. Maybe because he came from that Earth I don't know just strange.

Bacchus · 30-09-2021 2:20pm

That was a fairly epic episode. Possibly the best episode out of all the MCU Phase 4 shows. In isolation it was visually stunning and had great moments. In the context of the MCU, this HAS to have an impact later on. They could probably deal with it within What If and not spill in to the MCU prime universe but that'd be a waste IMO.

The stuff with the Watcher was great... the way he was caught off guard, the peek into his realm, the fight with Ultron and ultimately going back to Strange. It really tied the whole series together. Ultron too was great, such great potential for him to a massive villain in the MCU. He'll probably be defeated in the series finale but I'd love to see him brought in to the wider Multiverse carnage of the MCU as a Thanos level threat alongside Kang.

Foxtrol · 01-10-2021 5:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117959130#Comment_117959130

Don't see it having much or potentially even any overlap to the wider MCU. Like Loki and minimally Wandavison, it is just giving the audiences background to the multi-verse that people who don't watch the shows won't have but won't leave them totally confused.

Agree on the epicness of the episode.

Bacchus · 01-10-2021 7:45pm

I can see Spiderman NWH and Dr. Strange MoM, setting up the movie audiences with the "anything is possible in the multiverse" mentality that would allow these seemingly random versions of characters appear without causing much... distress? to the audience. I agree, these are background stories but my feeling is that they'll one day be background stories to events taking place in the movies. Maybe it's just wishful thinking. They've set up some great universes. Imagine Marvel Zombies on the big screen :D

FunLover18 · 02-10-2021 1:10am

I wish they didn't need to feel to tie it all together. I love the MCU and the interconnectedness but I was really enjoying this as a series of one offs that weren't connected.

I also really wish they could have got Spader to reprise his role. I've been fine with all the replacements so far but Spader has such a distinctive voice, I would have loved to hear chew this script to pieces.

Penn · 02-10-2021 11:50am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117966000#Comment_117966000

I agree about Spader, but if I remember right he was initially against taking on the Ultron role at all because he didn't want to just do a voice, he seemed to very much want his whole performance, and be able to be on-set with the other actors (which he was assured he would). So the idea that he didn't want to return to do the voice here makes sense.

EoinMcLovin · 05-10-2021 5:32pm

https://youtu.be/bU-FcHQL9uY

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Agent Coulson · 06-10-2021 9:55am

The finale was class.

More Agent/Captain Carter please.

The Guardians of the Multiverse.

EoinMcLovin · 06-10-2021 10:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117982392#Comment_117982392

Yeah great finale. Supposedly the universe Gamora was from was supposed to be the 10th episode but was moved to season 2. Looks like she is from a world where Tony ends up in Sakaar instead of Thor or Hulk

06-10-2021 12:33pm

Very good. Honestly, however, that needed an hour to tell properly.

CastorTroy · 06-10-2021 1:21pm

Poor Bernard from accounting.

Don't suppose Hayley Atwell has been working out a lot lately in preparation to bring Captain Carter to live action?

I see they got Kurt for the Ego role. Though was that just from Guardians 2? But sure Kurt has been working with Disney often throughout his career from the likes of The Computer wore Tennis Shoes to the excellent but often forgotten Sky High.

Was thinking maybe the world Natasha was left on was the main world but that wouldn't fit with what we saw.

Agent Coulson · 06-10-2021 1:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117983310#Comment_117983310

On that spoiler

The Urban Legend at one time was that Walt Disney's last words spoken before he died were Kurt Russell.

The actual truth was the last words Walt Disney wrote before he left his office for the last time before he died were Kurt Russell.

Penn · 06-10-2021 2:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117983310#Comment_117983310

Think the world Natasha was left on at the end was the one where Hank Pym killed the Avengers. So Steve was there (he hadn't been found yet by the time of Hank killing the others) and Cap Marvel (who showed up at the end of that episode), but don't think there were any others. Also tied all the episodes together.

CastorTroy · 06-10-2021 2:49pm

Ah,that would make more sense. Forgot about that world. And Loki attacking

Slydice · 06-10-2021 9:23pm

Well the end of (this season of?) What If...? Good Season! Well made! 🙂

9: Well that was grand! Decent story, good nods and fan service. Some real cool comic moments too!

Really like the Natasha jump and nod to Clint. Damn it felt bad that she was so alone in her Universe in the pub in the end. She fought literally to the end. Hope she gets on well in the new one.

Good big ole

Battle as well. I think being given a Guardians level label and not an Avengers felt proper enough. The battle was a little Avengery finale-y feeling but the level felt more Guardians-...ey? 🙂

Real locking in the fans

about the Peggy and Steve relationship.. I definitely had some feels about the idea they'd get together again.. maybe the Natasha backdrop helped

Which reminds me.. There's a Mid-Credits scene in case anyone missed it.

AMKC · 07-10-2021 12:20am

That was awesome. I went to watch Tuesday night going to bed and it was not there yet but was tonight thankfully. Thor is gas.

If that is what they came up with for season 1 I can not wait for season 2 it should be epic too.

Still Must be offaly sad and a bit weird being the watcher.

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What If...? - Disney+ (Spoilers)