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We landed on Mars... again? [Mod note post #1]

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    #542
    Markus Antonius
    Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117901183#Comment_117901183

    From the video here:

    https://www.space.com/perseverance-rover-mars-moon-deimos-video




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    #543
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,793 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117901213#Comment_117901213

    Where is your image on that site?



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    #544
    Markus Antonius
    Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117901262#Comment_117901262

    Screen grabbed from the video!



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    #545
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,793 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117901292#Comment_117901292

    You wrote that you found it in a google image search

    I just watched that video. Did you edit that photo?



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    #546
    astrofool
    Registered Users Posts: 16,464 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    This is the original source:

    Perseverance rover spots tiny Mars moon Deimos (video) | Space

    These were earlier eclipses captured by Curiousity:

    NASA's Curiosity Rover Just Saw 2 Eclipses on Mars! Now You Can, Too | Space



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    #547
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,077 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117901292#Comment_117901292

    So you created your own picture as a screen grab from another video which includes some simulated images to give a close up impression of what the moon would look like, but everyone except you understands the difference between a genuine picture and a simulation. You are then using your modified image which you created yourself as proof of there being fake images, but you created the fake.


    Next you'll be telling us that Matt Damon didn't spend a year and a half alone on the surface of Mars and that Yoda is really a puppet.



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    #548
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,793 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Hmmmm..

    http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=e59ee6ead9ff909011f5867bc76ab28e1e18ff1f.16033




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    #549
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So Markus since your not hiding from your own theory any more, why do you believe they faked a photo of a Martian moon?



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    #550
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Also I think this is the first time that we've caught a theorist here trying to fake their own evidence.

    Markus must be a bit desperate.



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    #551
    Markus Antonius
    Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117901641#Comment_117901641

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!!!!!

    You had to use photo forensics software to prove that my picture was a fake!!!!!!

    I made the picture from scratch using, not photoshop, not microsoft paint but Microsoft Word!!! LOOOOOOOLLL!

    And guess what? It took less that 5 minutes to fake a picture that you needed forensics software to prove fake! (And even then you still weren't sure!)

    Maybe Deimos is really the twinkle in Markus Antonius' eye (like what he must have had before he had his way with Cleopatra)

    fake photo for suckers.png




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    #552
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117901991#Comment_117901991

    Sorry what point were you trying to make?

    You faked an image to prove Nasa is faking images? You lied and claimed that your fake image was actually a Nasa image to prove that Nasa fakes images?


    Also previously on the thread you were claiming that these kinds of images were impossible to fake.


    You've reached very profound levels of dishonesty now.


    Why, man?



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    #553
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,793 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117901991#Comment_117901991

    Right, so when you wrote the below:

    "I did a quick google image search of that image. How come there are so many definitions and resolutions of the same image? Like this one:

    fake space pic5.png


    How can you tell which one is genuine?"

    That's all a fabrication, why would you lie? what does it accomplish?



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    #554
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So here's what I think happened.


    Marky being the 4d chess master he is decided to show us up. He made a fake image and posted it expecting that we'd offer an explanation for it. At which point he'd spring his clever trap and go: "aha you fool you've fallen for the classic blunder! That image isn't even real! Your explanation is false therefore all your explanations are false!"


    But snag! You guys did the reasonable fair and patient thing (far fairer and more patient that markus has earned imho) and asked what the source of the image was.

    Thinking quickly Marky lied and claimed he found it on Google. But then when you guys couldn't find it with image search he lied again and claimed it was a screen grab.

    Then finally dohnjoe dug a little deeper and found out why no one else could find the image.

    Hoping to salvage his clever ploy Marky announced that it was a trap all along (though no one actually got traped) made a big to do about how dumb we all are and dropped his line about twinkling eyes and Cleopatra that he was probably waiting to us since the start.


    We could ask him if this is accurate, but he'll never admit as much.


    Embarrassing show all together.



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    #555
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,077 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Creates a fake picture to prove there are fake pictures.

    Lies about finding it on Google.

    Lies about taking a screen grab from a video.

    Claims some kind of victory because the picture he faked, and said was a fake in the initial post, turns out to be a fake.


    No idea what point they were trying to make there?



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    #556
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117902279#Comment_117902279

    I also notice that he's changed his avatar to the fake image he made for some reason.



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    #557
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,421 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117902287#Comment_117902287

    Probably thinks he has got one over on everyone, still childishly giggling to himself.



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    #558
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,026 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well, now that we've put the whole "space programme is a fake" rubbish to bed, maybe he'll answer our questions about how and why Newton is supposed to be responsible for the deaths of "thousands" of seafarers....? I won't hold my breath.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #559
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117903270#Comment_117903270

    We're not going to get answers about anything. Not about his beliefs about the space program. Not about his views on Newton. Not his belief on the shape of the Earth. Not about his latest dishonesty and embarrassment.

    We're either going to get a stroppy dramatic exit from the thread or forum, complete with rant about how mean and dumb everyone is. Or he'll lay low for a while before linkdumping on the thread and doing his best the rest of the thread didn't happen.


    We can be reasonably certain though that he is genuine and not just a troll though. Trolls tend to lean into their character and don't have an issue with responding to posts. They don't get huffy and start ignoring opportunities to express ridiculous opinions to stir people up.


    The benefit is that he's provided a great example to counter all the whinging in other threads. The prefect illustration of how inherently ridiculous and dishonest conspiracy theories and their proponents are.



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