New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

L1011 · 15-09-2021 09:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117893663#Comment_117893663

Morgan is almost certainly waiting to see what NewsUK does with its internet video service (using the existing papers and radio stations for the bulk of the content); as that would be a vastly more secure job.

Mad_maxx · 15-09-2021 10:00AM

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Good post

Progressives are the establishment nowadays, now I know that's not the same thing as mainstream but it is what sets the tone

pixelburp · 15-09-2021 10:02AM

Purely from a pragmatic point of view, it's debatable how much of the War Chest is left at GB News that they could even afford Morgan in the first place.

I doubt Farage is working to scale, to borrow the phrase from Hollywood; indeed I bet he's by far the stations highest earner and depleting funds rapidly. Equally, the calibre of guests speaks to an inability to write large cheques for more prominent faces. Obviously reputation is a factor, but that smell is often easily masked by money.

Piers Morgan doesn't need the exposure though, or the heat after he arguably pushed things too far with his public bitterness that Megan Markle ghosted him. He and Farage are both total c*nts of the highest order but Morgan has more clout and connections. He has built himself a career within the mainstream media umbrella - unlike Farage who has revelled under the banner of the performative outsider act. Morgan has more to lose,

generic_throwaway · 15-09-2021 10:14AM

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He is. Anti-immigrant people in the UK aren't preoccuppied with Gypsies, they want rid of all the Eastern Europeans, folks with dark skin, Muslims - basically all Johnny Foreigners who don't win Olympic medals or Grand Slam tournaments under a British flag.

Quin_Dub · 15-09-2021 10:15AM

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Agreed - Not a snowballs chance in hell that Piers Morgan joins GB News now.

It was beyond slim before they started , but now with everything that has happened it's just not remotely realistic - There isn't enough money in the world that would make it worth his while.

I'd give GB News 6 Months or less as a 24/7 TV channel - As I said before I can see some kind of re-spin to shift to some sort of "Web TV" style thing to keep the tweets rolling , but they can't sustain a 24/7 broadcast channel when all they really have to offer is 4 hours a week of Farage that people might be interested in - And I suspect that even his numbers will start to decline as people get bored of the same old shtick.

generic_throwaway · 15-09-2021 10:18AM

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Once it becomes an accepted social norm, yes it would be. I think you need to investigate what 'conservative' actually means.

Catholic priests used to be able to marry. Then the rules changed so that they could not. People in favour of married priests 1000 years ago were conservative.

Mad_maxx · 15-09-2021 10:30AM

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Whether most people misinterprete the true meaning of the word is irrelevant, the common understanding is what counts in practice

ancapailldorcha · 15-09-2021 10:41AM

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There's generally a hierarchy of hatred for fulminating bigots. Top of the tree at the moment are Muslims and trans folk. If the news lulls on that front for a bit, the rest of the foreigners, the homeless, drug addicts and so on might get a look in. I remember when we had GB News defenders here alleging with no evidence that working class people are lazy. It never takes long.

generic_throwaway · 15-09-2021 10:41AM

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Right, and the common understanding of 'conservative' is wanting to conserve things as they are. Resistance to change.

Muahahaha · 15-09-2021 11:48AM

Looks like they are going full blown Brexiteer with Farages mates being set up for recruitment to the channel

GB News is looking to hire more of Nigel Farage’s former Brexit party stablemates as channel bosses look set to rebuild the station as a full-throated culture war outlet after the departure of Andrew Neil. Neil finally confirmed he would be stepping down as chairman and lead presenter on Monday night, just three months after he helped launch the channel and having presented only eight of the 52 episodes of his flagship show. His announcement, which came after weeks of rumours of Neil’s discontentment, has left many of the station’s staff pondering their future.

Instead, GB News appears to be increasingly being moulded in Farage’s image. Sources at GB News told the Guardian that station bosses have been in discussion with Gawain Towler, the former Brexit party head of press and longtime Farage aide, about joining the business. Other potential new presenters include Ann Widdecombe and Martin Daubney, both former Brexit party MEPs.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/14/farage-factor-gb-news-eyes-brexit-party-associates

Its also been reported that the CEO Frangopopulous (formely of Sky News Australia) intends to push the Ofcom regulations to the limit. This is becasue their research has found when they have guests on with a left wing slant to provide balance the audience goes mad and switches off.

One concern among some GB News producers is the reduction in airtime given to leftwing guests who were put on air to balance discussions. Sources claim channel bosses are increasingly confident they are able to push the limits of what is possible under Ofcom’s broadcasting rules and reduce the airtime for such individuals, who often elicit negative reactions from viewers.

One of the most popular topics raised by viewers is anti-vaccine material, with chief executive Angelos Frangopoulos urging staff to check their inbox for a sense of what the audience cares about.

So the audience is demanding a right wing echo chamber and GB News are going to deliver it even if they risk censure from Ofcom

L1011 · 16-09-2021 12:26PM

https://www.news.co.uk/2021/09/news-uk-to-launch-new-channel-talktv/

This is likely to drain the remaining sane presenters from GBNews and is going to have a vastly lower cost base as its an existing media operation and is basically already running just without dedicated shows as it is.

Wasn't expecting it to go on conventional TV (satellite/cable) but it says it will.

This channel is likely to be quite right wing but not as handstand as GBeebies as they've got more to lose by irritating Ofcom (existing broadcast licences)

Final nail in coffin.

Penn · 16-09-2021 12:31PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if Piers Morgan joined. Apparantly he's teased he does have a new job in the pipeline and is looking for a new "TV wife" (*shudder*) like Susannah Fielding who he worked with on Good Morning Britain.

But yeah, hard to see how GB News could keep going based on this.

ohnonotgmail · 16-09-2021 12:34PM

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he would be a much better fit with the presenters announced for this channel than he would be with Farage

L1011 · 16-09-2021 01:19PM

Morgan confirmed, to broadcast on this and simulcast on Fox and Sky News Australia.

GBeebies may as well go off-air now.

ancapailldorcha · 16-09-2021 01:24PM

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Is it only going to stream at certain times or constantly? If the latter then the only advantage I can see is circumventing Ofcom.

L1011 · 16-09-2021 01:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899541#Comment_117899541

Its going to be a conventional TV channel after all (they said it wasn't going to be) so it has to meet Ofcom rules.

It already basically exists as video from the studios, so the kit, cameras, etc is there and working

Rawr · 16-09-2021 01:51PM

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Ha....that whole NewsUK server went all 503...could be temporary (or just me) but interesting timing...

I wonder if they'll likely face a similar issue with regards to advert revenue. Also....are the Ofcom rules even being enforced lately? Hasn't Johnson been trying to get Daily Mail editors in there to run it? I don't get the impression that they'd been too pushed stop the likes of GB News.

Penn · 16-09-2021 01:55PM

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Unlikely they'll have any funding issues. It's Murdoch. He'll have all the Fox/Sky money easily propping it up.

ancapailldorcha · 16-09-2021 02:00PM

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He tried to get Paul Dacre through but it was blocked.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899822#Comment_117899822

True but I'm not seeing an obvious source of revenue. It's the same problem that GB News has. There's just too much expense for something that people won't pay for. Murdoch certainly as deeper pockets but he'll be expecting results.

ohnonotgmail · 16-09-2021 02:04PM

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It is an adjunct to its existing programming so the costs should be a lot lower than for GBeebies.

ancapailldorcha · 16-09-2021 02:09PM

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That's the key difference. It still won't be viable just the same as Sky News and BBC News aren't by themselves. TV News in any form is just lingering to be honest. I like the TLDR News channel on Youtube. They make short explainers of recent events and stories using colourful graphics. It's got excellent production values and doesn't need much in the way of staff. I think that's the future.

L1011 · 16-09-2021 02:31PM

TLDR News would have nothing to actually write about without journalists at other publications, though.

breezy1985 · 16-09-2021 02:35PM

I was kinda hoping Morgan would join the Shtshow that is GBeebies. This other channel actually seems like it might be a proper well run thing which is a bad sign

ancapailldorcha · 16-09-2021 02:54PM

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I didn't claim that it would.

Penn · 16-09-2021 02:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117900109#Comment_117900109

Sorry, yes. One is co-presenter to an annoying, egotistical, attention-seeker who is usually his own worst enemy, and the other is on a comedy show with Steve Coogan.

The Raging Bile Duct · 16-09-2021 04:04PM

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/16/piers-morgan-hired-to-launch-rupert-murdoch-tv-station-talktv?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1631799961

So Piers Morgan officially joins TalkTV. Can't see GB News surviving the launch of this.

Larbre34 · 16-09-2021 04:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117900460#Comment_117900460

No it'll surely be the final nail. Say what you want about Murdoch, but the existing portfolio that Talk TV will build on is very experienced and professionally produced - TalkSport is superb - makes GBeeBees look like a TY media project, with no offence to TY students meant.

pixelburp · 16-09-2021 04:17PM

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It can be remarkable to think just how big of a c*nt Morgan is. And an intentional one at that, one who seems unrepentant for his behaviour - perhaps even proud. When those opine that there are those that fail upward, Morgan has to be one of those.

Quin_Dub · 16-09-2021 04:46PM

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Your post reminded me of something attributed to Stephen Fry.

Many years ago he was appearing on a Radio comedy panel show in the UK

The panel were asked to define the word "Countryside"

The Legendary response from Fry was , "Countryside - The Murder of Piers Morgan"

ben.schlomo · 16-09-2021 10:46PM

Andrew Neil on Question Time now. Explaining his reasons for leaving GB News, difference in views between him and the company and the direction they've taken.

New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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