New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

Bit those same older people don't like new things and probably watch BBC/ITV like they have always done despite not being completely aligned with it's politics.

The only station GBnews is in competition with in it's current Farage form is Russia Today watching conspiracy nuts

The thing with BBC and ITV is that while they do show news and political commentary, they also do sports, music and other entertainment so one can segue from BBC News into Eastenders and then into something else, ie they've reason to watch the same channel for a stretch. With GB News, it's just "Here's another reason why woke is bad" on repeat and it gets old.

How? By growing its audience over time. You seem to rule out the possibility that it can grow its audience to the point that it has an impact and I don't rule that out. I don't claim to know it will happen either but I think the people who wrote it off before it even started were doing so out of desire.

If it has backers who are willing to support it financially then it doesn't need to make money. A poster above claimed GB News has a viewership of one sixth of Sky News. That's significant already and it can't be written off as a few conspiracy nutters.

I'll wait and see how it goes. I wouldn't relish it gaining popularity but i wouldn't write it off either.

Isn't this the interesting point though? That poster said the left is Golliath now, but Ireland doesn't have a left wing government nor has it ever had a government that isn't headed by either FF or FG. Likewise the UK has had a Conservative government for a decade and increased its majority the last time around.

If parliaments took place in twitter then the left would be in charge. Out here in the real world the uk governments are centre right- right wing givrrned country and, as you say, the news is overwhelmingly right leaning. But they've convinced the country they're under the boot of the left and if they don't like the way things are being run by the right then they need to turn harder to the right.

It's an impressive con trick and it's worked really well over the last decade.

Does it? How so?

The average middle aged/old aged conservative voter probably wouldn't have a clue what "a woke" was. And anti-woke is the raison d'etre of the channel. Plus older people are extremely reluctant to be early adapters of anything. But I'm sure if they tuned in, GBeebies wouldn't object though. But this whole thing is built on tenuous internet concepts, birthed from a US culture war mentality of binary, school yard, politics. Not exactly the realm of your average Alf Garnet type in England even if that type would be pretty one note in their political views. However, I don't know what the actual age breakdown of the tiny viewership is and, in any case, my "what the kids are talking about these days..." was more of a parlance than an actual comment on who GB News is aimed at.

As for the channel working, it hasn't shown any signs of that as of yet. I've said it before a few times on the thread that the only honest assessment here is that it has been a complete disaster and an absolute failure in every regard. Andrew Neil abandoning ship early, and staying in the water, has clearly demonstrated that. The lead guy doing a runner doesn't display any kind of success factor, or even a hope for any future success. It may try to lumber on into next year, but the forecast for the time ahead certainly doesn't look that good.

Ah, I thought you were referring to my post. My mistake.

You seem to have found a contradiction there somehow? Progressive views become conservative views once established, just as you point out. Where is the contradiction?

They have stopped making an issue out of it. That's much is clear. Whether they think equal treatment for guys is a good thing is a different matter, but they don't campaign on getting rid of gay marriage or anything like that.

Trans skepticism is all the rage now instead so they still get to have their moral panic issues.