Zgemma H7s Guide

Morris Code · 06-08-2021 7:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117715847#Comment_117715847

Bought from Satworld,Business Park,Old Naas Road.I rang them said I wanted it all set up-all he needed to know was where I lived so he could identify best Transmitter for Saorview.I collected it next day and indeed it was plug and play-Dish and Aerial already in place as I had from previous set up.I am happy with the box-but there is a problem on some channels in the heavy showers we've been having.No problem on dry days so I think the Dish and LNB probably need to be checked.

Murph_D · 07-08-2021 9:09am

Thanks for that, @Morris Code , I’ll give them a shout.

Murph_D · 11-08-2021 4:07pm

I picked up one of these boxes from Satworld yesterday. Like Morris Code, I got them to configure the box for me, so I plugged it in and it was working with a manageable set of boquets, Saorview first, Freesat second etc, so all good. I manually tuned in Newstalk using the method above, so that was all part of my learning curve. Of course I couldn't resist messing around with the box and ended up doing a rescan, so I've been introduced to the delights of autoboquetmaker etc. I think I'm getting the gist of how the whole thing works.

My setup is Freesat dish + Saorview antenna. Only 1 feed from the dish which I've plugged into one of the Tuner A LNB IN connections. Saorview is connected to RF IN (Tuner B?).

However in Menu>Setup>Tuners and Scanning>Tuner Setup, tuner A is set to DVB-S2X / single / Sats:28.3E Astra 2E/2F/2G. Tuner B is set to DVB-S2X / equal to tuner A. Tuner C is set to Combined DVB-C/T2 / Mode: DVB-T2 (I messed around with these and may well have changed from the original configuration.

I have a few questions:

I now see a folder called 28.2E UK Bouquets that I don't recall being there originally. Did I do something strange? It just seems to duplicate a lot of stuff in the Freesat bouquets so I don't know what it's for.
My TV's built-in sat tuner receives CNN HD but I don't see that anywhere in any of the bouquets on the Zgemma. Same with Channel 4 HD (which I was able to get on my old Amiko box). Can anyone hep me find these, or do it have to be tuned in manually?
I can't see how to get a channel into the Favourites (TV) folder. An pointers? I assume this would allow me to mix Saorview and Freesat channels in a single folder, as I think I read on here somewhere. Sorry, it's a big thread now.

Sorry for the newbie questions, I hope to get the hang of the box eventually. Very happy with it, the look and the the ease of use so far, despite the above issues!

Gerry Wicklow · 11-08-2021 6:50pm

@Murph_D

First off welcome to the addictive world of FTA boxes 😉. No need to apologise about noob questions. We were all noobs once.

I don't use ABM so can't really help you there but I wouldn't worry about the 28.E UK bouquet. Bouquets are just lists of channels to help organise them otherwise a complete scan of 28E gives over 900 channels.

I'm surprised that CH4HD and CNN HD are not in there somewhere. Although they FTA they are not part of the UK FreeSat listing which may explain it. Chances are they are in the 28E bouquet.

You will find CH4 HD on 11127 V 22000 5/6 DVB-S QPSK

CNN HD is on 11671 H 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK

KingofSat is handy to looking up other channel details https://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear

The easiest way to move channels around is using the WEBIF web interface. Enter the box network address (192.168.xxx.xxx) into any browser on the same network. One of the options is the "bouquet editor". Pick that, select BSKYB as the provider top left panel, highlight the channel you want to add bottom left panel, select the bouquet you want to add into top right panel and hit "Add selection to bouquet" button.

The newly added channel will appear at the bottom of the selected list on the bottom right. If you want to move it to another part of the list, grab the 3 lines in front of the channel name and drag up or down as required. You can also use this method to re-arrange the other channels.

You will find lots of other handy functions in WEBIF too.

And finally my age old warning. Just like a PC do regular backups of your settings so you can recover in seconds if/when you mess up. It saves many hours of swearing if you don't backup.

Murph_D · 11-08-2021 9:00pm

That's great, @Gerry Wicklow, many thanks. You're right, I found those HD channels, plus a few extra music channels I was looking for, in the BSKYB provider lists.

dulpit · 12-08-2021 10:21am

Sounds like the ABM setup is using Freesat, if you configure it to use Sky UK and check FTA only you'll get Channel 4 HD, CNN HD and (in my mind at least) the channel order is more sensible.

Murph_D · 12-08-2021 7:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117741546#Comment_117741546

Thanks - I have a feeling I got an error message when I tried Sky but I’ll try again. I’ve done an edit with WEBIF so all good for now.

a clanger · 15-08-2021 11:19am

Having trouble setting up my H7s. I previously had a Tiviar with OpenATV using the excellent image from Clareman. When recording on the Tiviar the recordings were placed in specific folders. ie This weeks 'Home and away' would all be recorded in a 'Home and away' folder. Now on the H7s image the various recordings are all just lumped in the /HDD/recordedTVprogrammes as opposed to /HDD/recordedTVprogrammes/Homeandaway

Could anyone point me in the direction of how to change setting or to achieve the above. I've looked but can't see anything obvious

RobertFoster · 15-08-2021 4:49pm

@a clanger: You can set autotimers to record to a custom location via Menu - Timers - AutoTimers - Home & Away - Use a custom location, select yes and then input the location. I'm not sure if there's a setting to get every programme to automatically record to their own folder.

RobertFoster · 15-08-2021 5:02pm

I've a query about NFS hopefully someone can help me troubleshoot. It's installed and running on my Zgemma H7s box (OpenATV 6.4), but it's not being picked up on network scans or manually on two other boxes (both Amiko Alien 2s, one running OpenATV 6.1, the other PurE2 6.5). All three boxes can see NFS running on a NAS but not the Zgemma.

I tried a different image using multiboot (OpenATV 7 beta) but that wasn't picked up in a network scan either.

The box is visible on a Windows 10 desktop (FTP, miniDLNA), but I'd like to watch Zgemma recordings on the Amiko Aliens.

Gerry Wicklow · 15-08-2021 6:37pm

Make sure NFS is enabled under Network utilities.

RobertFoster · 15-08-2021 10:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117758663#Comment_117758663

Is that under Menu → Setup → System → Network → NFS Setup, or are there utilities elsewhere? It's enabled there and set to autostart.

Gerry Wicklow · 15-08-2021 10:42pm

That should be the one. Alternately you could try minidlna which most smart TVs etc can see. I use DLNA and FTP depending on the devices.

RobertFoster · 19-08-2021 12:05pm

I tried a different image using multiboot (OpenATV 7 beta) but that wasn't picked up in a network scan either.

Turns out different images on multiboot can share some files. I noticed the old image picked up the weather settings I'd disabled from the new image, so I assumed NFS setting were being shared too. Cleared both images and started fresh with PurE2 6.5 and NFS is now accessible.

06-09-2021 8:36pm

Hi guys, I'm about to pull the trigger on one of these, currently have sky k but do I need a new lnb for the dish or should I be good to plug and play

11-09-2021 6:53pm

Bought the box and I'm up and running but seem to have a problem with saorview

It seems to be pre loaded with openvix but only certain channels are playing on the saorview menu eg rte1 is fine rte2 isn't, likewise virgin 1/2 not but 3 is fine. The ones not working show a tune failed although the +1 variants work

I did a scan of saorview and it shows 33 channels although rte2 ect isn't there,

Anyone got any ideas?

Gerry Wicklow · 11-09-2021 7:22pm

Have you tried a manual scan of the two frequencies for your area? It sounds like you might be only scanning one mux. Check here if you need the details for your area https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage

11-09-2021 7:53pm

Hi Gerry, I'm in South dub and 3rock seems to be where its pointing to,

When I go Into manual scan it's saying 38 channels found although it's only showing the ones that are working already for me, I don't see an option to search a second freq or channel there

Gerry Wicklow · 11-09-2021 8:10pm

OK for 3rock you need to scan channel 30 (546Mhz) and 33 (570Mhz). If you are not getting channels on both frequencies there may be a problem with your aerial / connections.

EDIT: use the left/right buttons to select 30 or 33. Alternatively instead of 'Predefined Transponder' you can opt for 'Complete' but this will take a while to scan

11-09-2021 8:23pm

Thanks Gerry I'm up and running now, ABM is preinstalled on it but say I go to 101 and get RTE1, it will only show the saorview channels, I need to press TV and select then from say entertainment music ect

To have all channels combined in a row do I need to add to favourites and create a list or is there another setting I'm missing to combine them?

Gerry Wicklow · 11-09-2021 8:54pm

The easiest thing to do is use the WEBIF function. Enter the box network address (192.168.xxx.xxx) into any web browser to launch it.

Select the BOUQUET EDITOR. Under providers top left panel select RTENL. Select your FAVOURITES bouquet top right panel. If you don't have a FAVOURITES already use the 'Add bouquet' button to create one. Highlight the channel you want to add to your favourites in the bottom left panel. Press 'Add Selection to Bouquet'. The newly added channel will appear at the bottom of the favourites list on bottom right panel. To rearrange the order in the favourites list, grab the 3 lines in front of the channel name and drag up / down to required location.

WEBIF is a very powerful tool so explore it when you have time.

11-09-2021 8:58pm

Perfect thanks for your help Gerry!

15-09-2021 9:06pm

Hi guys, another one for you

If a program is recording on saorview should I be able to watch another saorview channel? Eg virgin 1 is recording, but rte1 gives an error no free tuner, yet rte2, virgin media 2 all play fine? Any solution?

dxhound2005 · 16-09-2021 12:04am

That is because of the two separate frequencies being used as per the information in Post #560. The two different sets of channels are called Multiplex (Mux) 1 and 2. With only one terrestrial tuner you can only be on one frequency at a time.

https://www.digitaltv.org.uk/terrestrial-tv/saorview-channel-list/

greasepalm · 16-09-2021 1:12am

Hence why box records on your tuner and if your tv is setup with Saorview you view on tv.

Hedgecutter · 16-09-2021 12:09pm

Is it possible to access the hardrive on Zgemma h7s using a laptop. I want to put downloaded movies stright on so i can play them through the box.

dulpit · 16-09-2021 12:11pm

If its network connected you can ftp into the box using a tool like filezilla?

Hedgecutter · 16-09-2021 12:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117898933#Comment_117898933

Ok thanks, cant just connect usb and drop file to harddrive.

Charles Slane · 16-09-2021 1:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899043#Comment_117899043

Yes, you can. And I find it far quicker than using Filezilla. Connect a usb with file on it, press the "file list" button on the remote and you should be able to see the usb there (if not, press the yellow button for "location" and it should show up then).

Gerry Wicklow · 16-09-2021 2:56pm

It should show up in windows file explorer under network. If not you may need to enable SAMBA on the box.

MENU>SETUP>NETWORK>UTILITIES>SAMBA

AFAIK If it's openATV you need to set a network password on the box before it will work. Another openATV ~~improvement feature~~ headache

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