Will racism ever end?

I remember at the height of Destiny’s Child fame, I read an article about them and their brand, describing how, since Beyonce was the lead etc. she demanded to always look the “fairest” in all the promo photos of the three girls. Chuckle. Internalised racism, anyone? Anyhow, it wasn’t that controversial at the time, but I can only guess at the hoollaballoo that would follow such an article these days.

There has for a long time been considerable pressure on black and darker skin toned celebrities to lighten their skin. Either using skin products or in retouching the photos of them published.

I believe the pressure to lighten her skin for Beyonce is rumoured to have come from her father and the bands manager.

It is wrong for the media or anyone to push the idea that darker skin is not attractive. The retouching of darker celebrities to lighten their skin tone does increase pressure on young darker skin toned people.

I don't really follow Beyonce's career but there might be considerable difference between the stage managed persona presented and the real person. Never the less, the societal pressure to lighten skin tones has been well reported at this stage.

Here is an article from this year about images of Beyonce being retouched to make her appear paler not from the person herself but from the publisher of a magazine she was featured on. And I hope we can agree that is wrong and presents the wrong image to young impressionable fans.

For the most part I look at racist comments as just stupidity and ignorance.

There are those who use it for their agendas. They need to be shut down. Similarly you have those with agendas who take every opportunity to label people racist, they need to be shut down too.

You cannot reduce racism to just stupidity and ignorance certainly not in the modern world. It is definitely used by some who wish it to be deliberately divisive and to create divisions within society. It is much easier to control the poor when they are fighting each other and the differences there are at skin colour level than looking at who really creates many of the problems in the world.

Intentionally or otherwise, I think this question is somewhat misleading. just to clarify There is no law that is prosecuted simply on the basis of one persons desire that it should be done. If there was, there'd be a hell of a lot more cases before the courts for rape/sexual assault.

Say the scenario happened, someone would have to report it, it would have to be investigated and a decision made whether to pursue a prosecution or not. There's a lot of different factors that would come in to play with potential for what actually happened to be either end of the scale such as the two white people talking quietly amongst themselves, not even aware there was a black person there and one of them tells the joke to the other. I wouldn't suggest a prosecution should be pursued in this instance. But, if the two white people were standing there, saying nothing, and the black person walked up and one of the white people looked deliberately at them and got their attention and then loudly to their friend so that the black person, and anyone else in the vicinity could hear, what was being said, told the joke and laughed towards the black person, then possibly, yes, a prosecution should be pursued but again as an outcome of it being investigated appropriately. And there's many other ways this scenario could play out trending towards one end of the extreme or the other.

Those arguing against legislation to help limit such events imply that it is likely that in all instances, just because one person claims the comments were deliberately aimed at them, that a conviction will be the outcome when there is no evidence that this will be the case, either with respect to this topic, or any other legislation on the books. In fact, the burden of responsibility at play in the judicial system favours heavily towards the accused rather than the accuser.

Now, given the scenario as outlined above, do you think the behaviour of the two white people should be punishable if it were to happen in the second scenario as I outlined?

This, there will always be racism.

there will always be too other deplorable things in our society like...

murder, assault, rape, drink driving, corruption, bullying, fraud, extortion.. it’s not human nature but just the nature of some shît humans... you can educate, deter.... but hey you can’t program people...or tune them to a frequency that they don’t want to be tuned to.

Racism waa a crime i thought.

Proving it would be difficult in most cases... racism is discrimination that comes in multiple forms...

Rape , murder, drink driving are black and white...

I could discriminate against a person because i dislike their personality... nothing illegal there.. however if they are of a differing ethnicity and accuse me of whatever dislike or snub being racially motivated. . . Id have a case to answer..

Sadly, trump was a major asset to bigots and racists. He did so much damage in just 4 years. Its a relief that there are adults back in the white house again but I feel it will take decades to repair the divisiveness he has caused. Remember, this was a man that said neo nazis and white supremacists were fine people!

I'm pretty sure Donald Trump never specifically targets these two groups and said they were fine people.