The 2021 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

It is one thing being an idiot, it's another thing proving it. Matt O'Connor was recognised as one of the greatest players of his generation. I already acknowledged that Tommy Murphy was a great player. Matt O'Connor only played intercounty for 5 seasons, in that time he won 3 all stars. On pressure days Matt O'Connor performed the same cannot be said for CoC and the rest of the big name Mayo players.

I say this clearly not CoC could not lace Matt's boots as a player. Chawke and cheese. Again took his chance at a Gong when it arose against one of the greatest teams ever.

Those Derry and Offaly teams were teams that took these chances. The Mayo team have not over the last 10 years. It a bit like a week or two before the 2019 All Ireland Final a Mayo said to me he hoped that Dublin did the 5 in a row. As he spoke on it was not because he considered them a great team( which they were) but because he felt it would acknowledge Mayo as a great team as well.

With that attitude you can understand why they lose. TBF I have read the Mayo GAA thread and there is an acknowledgement that there is a serious problem and that Mayo have bottled chances at winning All Ireland's. Done are looking back and accepting that it's a Mayo player/ management attitude problem not anything else.

So stop disparaging other great players that have a right to be critical of what they see and question the resolve of those players in getting over the line.

Just as an aside

Are London actually that much of an advantage to a Connacht player. They have certainly had years when they were better than Waterford, Wicklow or Limerick. Also to win Connacht you play less games than Ulster or especially Leinster so that is a leveller too

What about what o hora done to Shane Walsh in connacht final . I didn’t hear much complaints from Mayo fans then. But when somebody drags Keegan down there’s uproar . Ya can’t have it both sides . If ya give it out you got to take it .

Not from Mayo either. Can't understand the amount of vitriol towards them or the likes of Cillian O'Connor or Aidan O'Shea. Lot of bitter keyboard warriors out there.

I agree with you said. Its a Mayo team that are rebuilding from the previous very good side and they have just almost been unlucky to have fallen into the last two All-Irelands when in reality they probably weren't good enough to be competing at that level. Very poor opposition in Connacht, only had to beat Tipp to get there last year. This year a spectacular Dublin implosion saw them through and with hindsight I think Mayos level is more the first half of that game than the remainder of it.

Thought Aidan O'Shea had a decent enough first half, involved in I think 4 Mayo points. Had he got the goal, he would have had a great first half. Of the 4 goal chances butchered by Mayo, his was the only one you could actually put down to good defending as opposed to a really poor attempt although a more skilful forward might have jinked inside the defender. He should have been taken off early in the second half when it was clear Mayo couldn't or wouldn't use that channel into him, but that is on Horan and not O'Shea.

The Cillian O'Connor bottler stuff is just warrior idiocy also, he was a huge loss on Saturday evening particularly in the last 15 minutes when Mayo forwards were in full panic mode. This is an outstanding equalizing point at the end of a game:

Why would they have that skill when the primary consideration it seems these days is to hand pass and/or pull down or foul the opposition.

I feared for mayo when I saw your man with the pink boots........ In his head the match was already won..

Hard to know what to make of the final really.

For all of Tyrone's merit Mayo could have been closer and at the same time Tyrone could have been further ahead.

Mayo didn't actually play that badly. You can never fault them for effort the last decade but the final quarter was just grim. Stupid passes/shot selection.

Lord knows where the pre-match confidence came from. Tyrone beating Kerry was arguably of greater significance. Dublin were on the ropes most of the year and were waiting to be put out to pasture.

I like Mayo and would hate for them to drift back into the wilderness but the Covid knockout format has helped them massively as much as Horan's return. If the Super 8 returns they might find it that bit harder to go close again.

Its good though in a way that the Tyrone myth was exposed. For far too long there has been too many misconceptions about them. They regularly have been close to the 20 points or so necessary to win a game over the last 5/6 years. Sort of like Simeone's Atletico Madrid. Not in the least bit bothered about the public but compete come hell or high water. Killarney was blown out of proportion. They are a lot shrewder than that. Dooher/logan ought to have been there at least 2/3 years ago.

I wouldn't imagine them dominating the scene the next while. I like how they go about things but they ain't quite in the same bracket as Limerick hurlers and the competition is a little bit tighter. Congrats to them though. A very impressive All Ireland to have won.

Not sure what the colour of the boots have to do with it? What colour is acceptable in your opinion? Those same coloured boots didnt seem to affect his performance while Mayo beat Galway, again.

It has to be psychological. Dublin were known as a team of soft bottlers from about 2000-2010. Opposition fellas have said as much in programmes such as Laochra Gael often enough (which annoys me- but they are correct). Dublin had to be dragged over the line by that Kevin Mc goal in 2011 against the run of play.

And were lucky the way the 2011 game panned out Kerry had little time to recover again, and change from thier 'coasting' mindset. Cluxton wasted about 3 mins on that final kick and then the final whistle blew. Now that was only pressure of a 16 year wait for Dublin. God knows what a 70 year plus, wait is like!

It can't be coincidence that Mayo save thier best performances for AI Semi-Finals - Ok exclude bad luck in finals, it happens like in 1996. But how often have Mayo made a poor start in AI Finals and were chasing a game?? Pressure is just too much for Mayo. Commentators on Mid West Radio in an almost in a religious fervour most of the time - it is not just a game of ball for them. It is 'holy grail' stuff at this stage.