F1 2021 Round 14: Monza

Not really sure put I think Yuki Tsunodo did not even start.

No idea what happened to Pierre Gaslys car but he just retired it I think. Its like neither of them started at all. Must have had engine problems.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with you,

But I'd have picked C.S Lewis

Seeing Russell inhelmet camera I wonder why people don't crash more often

Alonso has chipped in with his thoughts

His view basically mirrors mine, I guess some of the fanatics on this thread will be saying he should go watch UFC as he knows nothing about F1 🙄

Confirmation bias if anything. Stewards have given their decision, and punishment has been meted out to Verstappen who was decided to have predominantly caused the incident. No one in the F1 community (bar Fernando here) has attributed blame to Hamilton, aside from your soapboxing about it of course.

Racing incident at least, Verstappen to blame at the very worst (according to the stewards). Just take it on the chin for your favourite driver, 3 place grid drop isn't the worst penalty. Isn't even consistent with most of their other decisions these days, but take the good with the bad.

I doubt even Max, if he was driving that Mercedes-Benz, could have carved his way from the back to win that race in the same circumstances. Throughout the weekend Bottas got pole for the sprint, won the sprint and carved through to the podium. That's the best performance of the weekend by any driver by a country mile. Once it was clear that Perez had a penalty incoming I imagine Bottas would have received instructions not to risk any outlandish lunge for a chase down of the McLarens.

Neutral observer? Weren't you saying that Toto was sending brown envelopes at Silverstone?

Which part do you think is inaccurate? I'm genuinely curious how someone could be so blinkered.

I agree. They put a note at the bottom of the judgement to say they judged it solely on the incident and not on the outcome, but I wonder if that's totally accurate.

They might have thought they have to punish someone or else they will get the impression that they won't be penalised for crashing. Ad that to the desire no to be the one to puss out of a crash and you have a near guarantee of a crash every time they are in a battle on track for position.

I think it was a racing incident. Might be 60:40 one way or the other depending on the interpretation of the rules. But it shouldn't have been a 3 place grid penalty for the next race. Such a shame to mess with the next race and reduce the chances of a close battle.

My time is more valuable than that. I'll leave you with this from a nEuTraL

Hamilton is a compulsive liar, all he's done is said he "might" have long covid to the British media who have lapped it up. No doctor has diagnosed him with anything and he was happily bouncing around after winning the previous race by putting his competitor in hospital. Long covid doesn't suddenly appear 9 months later, coincidentally on a day when you performed poorly and had to do a bit of work for once.

It took Lewis Hamilton 42 laps to get past Lando Norris, and he lost it again with his botched pitstop. Surely with the fastest car on the grid Lewis should have made short work of the midfield cars? Especially at Monza?

Crashes need to be discussed less .

Yesterday on merit Mclaren beat both Redbull and Mercedes . Ricciardo was incontrol the whole race and even after the Pitstop round was head .

There was no Rain, there was no Damage issues , there was nothing Max could do in the first stint behind Riccardo , It took lewis a long time to over come Lando as well and even after the pit stop was behind Lando again. Ricciardo was well clear of that even .

It was great to see a Third team challenge them and over come them, I dont believe the accident would have changed the Outcome . Its a pity it didnt happen earlier in the season and Maybe Mclaren might have gone for more. Hopefully they can pull it off again before the end of the season.

The Mclarens are fast they use the merc engine and yes Lewis should have been able to get passed Lando quicker. Bottas had a good drive, nobody is saying he didn’t. I just think he should be expected to pass the Astons and Alpines etc. They are slower.

Poor Valteri never got a sip.

Good thing Covid no longer exists :P

They were both on the soft compound for the first 18 laps.

No they weren't. Mclaren took a gamble on the softs but Mercedes and most of the gris were on mediums.

McLaren went with softs for the sprint race, but in the GP they were on mediums like most of the grid. The Mercedes were on hards.

Just so your all aware, the first 18 laps I refer to were on Saturday, and yes Hamilton and most of the field were on mediums with the McLarens on softs. 😎

I was waiting for someone to fall into my trap. 😈

In the sprint almost all were on mediums. Mclarens were on softs.

And in the race almost all were on the hard but McLaren were on mediums. So the Hamilton was always on a step harder tyre than norris while they were actually on track together.

This lad predicted it.

Danny thought he had.

You could hear the "you lucky sod" tone in Lando's voice.

I used to hate Damon Hill with a passion when he raced, just blind hate, in later years I read his book and had completely realised I was just been biased as I saw him as the "enemy", like the derby rivals in football, but of late I realise I may have been right the first time. Lewis Hamilton could run over his wife and he would call it a racing incident. Couple that with a recent tweet he said about Schumacher, he is just a bitter man. I felt sorry for him, growing up the way he did and then when he was at his racing peak, he had to emerge from Schumacher's shadow. Now I am sick of listening to him. I cannot wait for next season when Hamilton, Russell and Norris are banging wheels and Hill, Di Resta (who I am surprised is so bad) and Herbert are doing cartwheels not to say any of them are at fault.

When I first saw the accident I thought Max was 100% to blame but subsequent views it was 50/50, both equally could avoided it. Delighted McLaren got the win and Bottas had a great drive. Still don't understand why Perez didn't let the Ferrari retake the place. I watched both F2 races, which were great, and they had plenty of foreshadowing to the F1 race, with overtakes, accidents and penalties. Definitely going to try my best to watch the rest of F2 season.