F1 2021 Round 14: Monza

skipper_G

Damon Hill can't help it, he gets flashbacks to Adelaide 94 and sees Schumacher's smiling face in his nightmares

JeffKenna

What Damon Hill said is really out of order.

MadYaker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880900#Comment_117880900

Two morons.

Burkie1203

Horner should punch hill and walk off

2011

I think Christian Horner is being very balanced in saying it is a racing incident.

martingriff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880914#Comment_117880914

Loved Horner there. Took the questions and comment before with no emotion showing. Answered calmly ready to move on but equally ready to answer again in a calm manner. I say drove Hill up the wall. Good job he had the mask on

devnull

Damon Hill seems very bitter and like he has a chip on his shoulder.

Not a surprise through from a driver who showed no appetite for racing in his last stint at Jordan.

Schumacher still is inside Hill's head all these years later.

RunningFlyer

Herbert still at it too… unbelievable

McFly85

“ I don’t like to do the blame game, but it’s 100% Max’s fault.”

Indestructable

I fcucking hate Sky's coverage. Shut up Johnny Herbert.

Burkie1203

Herbert is a d1ck.

quokula

Disgusting comments on Sky trying to change the narrative and completely distort the view of that incident despite Paul di Resta’s analysis showing really clearly that Max was entirely correct to go for the gap and had the space before Lewis turned in on him to cause the accident.

Horner being extremely diplomatic, hardly surprising when the media turned the narrative against them every time they have made reasonable statements about dirty driving and tactics from Mercedes previously in the season.

Its such a shame to see this dominate the coverage on a day when there was so much to celebrate for McLaren and other teams.

RunningFlyer

Mind you, hypothetically if Max does get penalised and gets a penalty, can they serve the penalty at the same race they take the engine change penalty?

edit: I think it will be judged racing incident anyway.

JeffKenna

Is there any where else to watch F1? F1 channel is Sky's coverage as well and I'm **** fed up listening to this bias stuff.

Jeff2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117878793#Comment_117878793

Just thought I'd quote this post if anyone missed it. :)

martingriff

First 1-2 for 12 years and this crap is talked about. Johnny going I don't want but then goes on a rant of how its Max and should be a penalty and then goes crying but I don't want to do that. If it was other way around this analysis would not be happening

Edit Decided to just tweet F1 Sky. it. Wonder will it be read or read out when they do some tweets. Doubt it

ctrl-alt-delete

Herbert showing why he never won anything of much note.

Lawlesz

Literally had to turn the sky coverage off there, couldn't listen to Hill throwing round those accusations. That's really shocking and I really hope he gets called out for it.

tigerboon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880953#Comment_117880953

So by this logic, Hill is correct.

quokula

The amazing thing is that the initial reaction from Brundle based on what actually happened and not Damon Hill’s fantasy, was whether or not Hamilton would be penalised because he was blatantly the one in the wrong by not leaving space. They’ve managed to completely turn that into a question of Verstappen being penalised post race by ignoring reality and the analysis and making up their own facts.

The thing is that we’ve seen time and again that the stewards are inconsistent and get swayed by pressure so who knows what conclusion they’ll come to.

martingriff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880967#Comment_117880967

Did the exact same

ctrl-alt-delete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880971#Comment_117880971

I'm only referring to his comment about backing out of a position that he had a right to be in (that was my take on it anyway) - not about any correlation between his opinion weight and his trophy haul.

McFly85

I’ll be shocked if it’s anything other than a racing incident. You could argue neither had any massive obligation to move.

ctrl-alt-delete

Back to Horner, Did I understand it right in that he seems to think the front right was ready to go, but the others didn't think it was ready to go. The wheel mechanic seemed to do his job, but then seemed to be looking at his gun and holding it a bit strangely before being ushered by someone to do it again.

RunningFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881001#Comment_117881001

My initial impression on the replay was front-right never actually sealed the wheel on but thought he had?

Still to be confirmed though and Christian didn’t specify, just said “car wasn’t released” or something.

martingriff

Love to see SKY reaction when the stewards make there decision. but I rather watch paint dry

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881001#Comment_117881001

I suspect it’s due to the new rules, there’s a required delay now after fitting each tyre that came into force since Zandvoort to slow them down - they’ll have had to change their processes to introduce an artificial delay and I expect whatever change they’ve made has caused a problem as they’re normally a well oiled machine but it will have been hard to change years worth of muscle memory.

Hijpo

What's the story with the displays in the RB pit?

A mechanic holding a panel with two lights, one on the left and one on the right with the left illuminated. Then there is a panel over head with the same configuration but the light on the right is illuminated.

Burkie1203

Herbert blaming max for Silverstone now

martingriff

Had to go back to it just to see. Has Herbet been given a slap on the hand, He has seemed to back down a tiny bit and Paul is giving as much as he gets and Herbet is fuming

Burkie1203

Fair play to Di Resta

ctrl-alt-delete

Johnny having a right cry here and going down the Hill opinion route.

martingriff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881045#Comment_117881045

Going down the route he was already there

ctrl-alt-delete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881051#Comment_117881051

Sorry, I never heard him say it as much without saying it.

He doesn't even want to listen to Massa now.

Burkie1203

Herbert seems to forget max was ahead into copse

Indestructable

I wish they brought Brundle up for a chat with Johnny. He got it completely right in commentary.

martingriff

I have a feeling that SKY big wigs might have had a word with Hill and Herbert to calm the words. Hill has not come back and Herbert is walking a dangerous line

RunningFlyer

Herbert is an absolute disgrace here. I’d say he will be sidelined by Sky after this. (Hope anyway)

Harika

Herbert, Massa, diResta is hilarious

Hill going full conspiracy nut

Burkie1203

Lewis is the one guy avoiding incidents. Except when he punted max into the wall at 150 MPH

ctrl-alt-delete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881074#Comment_117881074

Also he could have pulled out of that one Today just as much as Max could have - there is a pair of them in it. As Paul said, the gloves are off, the scene is set and it won't be the last time this season.

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881081#Comment_117881081

Herbert basically thinks Max should pull over and let Lewis through like Bottas does

devnull

Double post in error

devnull

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881087#Comment_117881087

That's what Herbert and Bottas have in common.

They're both submissive, subservant certified losers with no backbone.

TheChrisD

apparently images can't be posted on their own so here's text filler to satisfy the Vanilla post requirements

Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881081#Comment_117881081

Christian said the same, Hill went at him with Max had room to bail out and he said if you want to make that argument then you have to argue that Lewis had room to bail too! I think Horner was spot on with what he said and to be fair Toto was more reasonable than expected also…. Although he did throw in the “tactical foul” comment that Hill latched onto!

Frank Bullitt

Hill and Herbert came across as clowns with those comments.

ctrl-alt-delete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881125#Comment_117881125

Johnny Herbert will be on here later and with your username he will be sure you are Max.

Darwin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880769#Comment_117880769

I need to see the replay again of the Roggia incident, but it appeared to me it was a test of who would outbrake who going into this corner. With Max on the inside, he was always going to miss the apex a bit with the speed he was carrying and push wide. The first corner incident was a different proposition, it was a slower entry for both and there was room for two cars as demonstrated by some others running side by side here.

recyclebin

In other news, McLaren had a 1-2 finish!!!!! Great drive for Ricciardo, all is forgiven after his very slow start since joining the team.

He won this race on speed and merit. Red Bull and Mercedes made mistakes in the pits as they were under pressure to try and beat him in there as they didn't have the pace out on track. I laughed when Ricciardo set the fastest lap at the end. Good to see they had even more pace if they needed it.