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The 2021 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,853 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    That crab stuff is really ineffective when a team is defending a 'loss' in fairness! 😂

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I dunno, hasnt it been in west Britain for the last 6 years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,853 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Does anyone have the converted chances/wide count? I assume Tyrone hammered Mayo on those stats?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭pimpmyhat


    Not off the top of my head, tyrone did miss a good few points in the second half



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,559 ✭✭✭MfMan



    The Mayo penalty, anyone think the Tyrone player had the ball trapped between his knees when lifting it, thus fractionally off the ground?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭siblers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 longballer


    Thought Tyrone’s workrate and system whereby they stick to the basics won the game for them. The basics of chasing everything & knowing that everyone is going to hunt in packs isn’t new, yet they proved again that its very very hard to play against. For all Mayo’s hunger, I thought that their intensity dropped after the first 20 minutes whilst Tyrone maintained their slavish adherence to playing as a team with everyone knowing what the system is - chase everything and cover the gaps, then break at pace. As a Tyrone man, I’m delighted we won, but truthfully I feel sorry for Mayo and particularly for their more senior players who just can’t get over the line. The penalty miss was unfortunate, the sending off could have been balanced but overall I think the result reflected the performance of teams. Re ticket allocation, I wonder where the Donegal ‘hero’ got his ticket from given he was in the reserved area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,563 ✭✭✭dobman88


    I'm not sure of the official stats but I think Mayo had 10 wides, a penalty hit the post and a handful drop short.

    Both teams had 19 shots from play and Mayo only scored 7 points off theirs. Tyrone rattled in 2-8.

    Got that info from Twitter and cant find the tweet now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Game shuda been played on a Sunday, it wasn’t a replay. Today result is deemed void in my opinion. No champs in 2021 and Mayo for Sam in 22.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,559 ✭✭✭MfMan



    Don't think the penalty miss was as big a turning point as Tyrone's first goal. Loftus took the ball into contact (again) when in a very good attacking position, was pinged for overcarrying and seconds later the ball was in the net t'other end. Even had they scored the pen, don't think Mayo were playing well enough to build on it.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,922 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    True, probably why you thought the game was on tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭ratracer


    In fairness to the GAA, they tried to give Mayo every chance this year….they played the Connacht Final in Croke Park to let them experience that winning feeling, played on a Saturday to avoid a curse…….and still Mayo couldn’t play their part!!

    Ok, this is a bit tongue in cheek 😃, and I feel a bit sorry for Mayo, but the better team on the day won.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    Did anyone else think the Mayo goalie was at fault for the first goal?

    He was in absolute no mans land for it, I always think goalies should stick to their line when a high ball is dropping in, only come for it if there is absolutely 100% chance you're going to collect possession.

    Between this goal and the missed penalty that's a six point swing straight away.

    Although a good old servant to Mayo, Aiden O Shea should step away from the panel and save the next manager whoever he is the job of not having to pick him for the panel. He looked like a oul fella in the second half, some of the Tyrone players literally just ran around him at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Two, Mick Loftus and Paddy Prendergast. Some no doubt will still believe in the curse after yet another final defeat.

    The theory by some on here and elsewhere that Mayo only lost so many recent finals because they were up against the "greatest" ever team was put to bed today as this Tyrone team aren't even as good as their 2003,05,08 Al winning teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,853 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    It is the Mayo fans I feel sorry for. Nothing worse than watching a team perform below their potential and fold on the big day.

    I still feel all the tools were there for Mayo to win. But they blew it. It was not the sort of defeat where fans can feel the players left everything out there, or there was hard luck.

    For Mayo fans this must be a worse defeat than 2012. As that was over before it even began.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I'm so sickened. Was really hoping Mayo would do it.

    Mayo just weren't at it. Their decision making was terrible. It was the same thing in the first half v the Dubs too. Players running into tackles where you could see them get swallowed up a mile away.

    Aidan O'Sheas great attributes are retaining possession under pressure and under the high ball. I haven't seen O'Shea actually provide value in retaining the ball under pressure for quite a while now. I saw 0 value in having him out the pitch. What exactly does he offer there? Again, it was very annoying seeing him around 60 yards out receive and then quickly offload a ball or solo the ball sending long balls in when it should be the other way around.

    Conor Loftus had a stinker. Missed the open goal and couldn't hit a point to save his life.

    Best team won on the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    What's the rules regarding goalkeepers being on their line for penalties? Morgan was a good metre off the line when O'Donoghue took the kick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭conor05


    Looking at Saturday Game here.


    Darren McCurry had some game, his movement and showing for the ball was relentless all game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,406 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Would only matter had he saved it.

    The keeper was beaten, was the post that stopped it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Absolutely!

    But then, there are no fans of any county/ team that don’t believe their team can win a final when they’ve made it that far. It’s the hope that kills ya.

    No player or manager goes into a final with a single thought that they can’t win it. But someone always has to lose, it must be just so tough to keep not winning ( a better phrase than losing!)

    I kinda want to see Mayo win an AI at some stage, just so my Mayo friends know what it feels like to walk out of Croke Park as winners on AI Final day!! I don’t know any Mayo person who has experienced this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    I guess maths is a bit of a challenge down south considering Cork have 7 all irelands in football, not 8



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Swaine


    Some crap been thrown at AOS on here and other places today. He’s such a selfless player, remember him sacrificing his big day to play full back to mark Donaghy a few years ago.

    People having a pop at his scoring record too, not his job to score. This isn’t soccer.

    All the couch potatoes slagging a 3 time all star amateur footballer doesn’t sit right with me at all.

    Totally undeserved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I have to respectfully disagree, over the years his decision making in All Ireland Finals has been brutal. He made a hash of that goal chance today, he missed a sitter of a point. He was started as a forward whats his job if not to score and set up scores.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Swaine


    His job is to win ball, carry ball and tackle. He has not and ever will be a scorer. The number on his back is totally irrelevant. And he started the game in midfield not the forwards.

    He had a shite game, so what. There was another 10 Mayo men who were as shite. He’s an easy target.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    Fair enough, but how do you feel he performed today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Swaine


    See above post. He was shite. He seems to be shouldering the majority of blame though. Totally unfair. The man doesn’t get a penny for playing this game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,853 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Ah come off it all the rest of the Mayo lads are amateurs as well. To use the ah ‘they are only amateurs’ is a handy get out clause. Many inter county players with much less talent and physical attributes of AOS do not go ‘missing’ so consistently as AOS does.

    It is not the first time AOS has gone missing. I have seen it when he has played on tv or at matches. Yet AOS is dressed up as a talisman???

    Compare AOS to Liam McHale, Ciaran McDonald or even his former inter county teammate Andy Moran. It is night and day those lads were leaders and talismanic. AOS is flaky and goes missing more often than not.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Sorry but that is BS. He is a senior player, captain of the team. Look at the ball he got one on one, he turned and shot on the blind. Even if it was on target Morgan would probably have saved it. Over the years his decision making in big games has been nothing but brutal in AIF's.

    Mayo have an issue with decision making in big games. It's not all down to AoS but he has been a constant for underperforming in finals for the last 5+ years

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    This whole "he doesn't get a penny" is very naive thinking.


    If you think high profile players don't benefit from being a county footballer, you need to wake up. He went from being on a student placement with AbbVie to being a senior manager within 3 years.


    Cathal McShane was wanted by AFL clubs....yet he stayed with Tyrone. Rumours of a large financial package to keep him in Tyrone. Just have a look at his linkedin....Jan 2020 - rumours of AFL contract. February 2020...joins Keystone as an executive...nothing shady about that at all!


    Shane Walsh was showing off his brand new Audi he got at the turn of the year from a sponsor.


    You don't even need to be senior to get benefits. I know a lad who got a big job with a sponsor of a county team yet he only ever played minor for the county.



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