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Katherine Zappone Envoy Gig

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Aska


    It's hard to know why the usual suspects seem to feel a desire to throw themselves on the grenade at times.

    Others include:

    Colm Brophy, Kieran O'Donnell, Jack Chambers (M.I.A.) & Neale. Maybe they are blindsided loyal while above them it's a Loyal to No-one motto



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭jmcc



    It was conduct unbecoming for an FGer. He tried the usual politician's trick of talking over the interviewer but it was a big mistake. Sarah McInerney is a journalist rather than a jumped up DJ. She absolutely obliterated him and left him looking quite stupid. FG does seem to be sending out eager cannon fodder over the last few weeks. It isn't so much a case of lions being led by donkeys as a bunch of asses who have been caught rotten. In any other country, Varadkar, Coveney and Harris would have been fired long ago. Luckily for them, they have a weak, grovelling FG wannabe leading FF. But Martin's days may be numbered too.

    Regards...jmcc

    Post edited by jmcc on

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    What a beautiful Morning.

    Will it be Granola , Weetabix, Perhaps Porridge for Breakfast 😏

    One thing for Sure a spot of TOAST would be nice.

    I suspect some Politicians might need an extra bit of extra Fibre at breakfast this morning 😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,674 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    I'd reckon they'd be avoiding the fibre at all costs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Thought it might help some "stiffen resolve" so to speak 😉 😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,522 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It's not so much the appointment (although it had a right bang of the crony off it and now we know it probably was) it is the cover up that is doing the main damage, just like Profumo, Watergate and so many other scandals that originate in the Arrogance Of Power.

    Had Coveney and Varadkar been able to lie straight in the bed about this seedy little stunt they could have avoided this...it would be over.

    But nope, lie on lie, arrogant behaviour after arrogant behaviour.

    Story broke on the 4th of August and on the 7th Sept Coveney faces his darkest hour and the story rages away at the topof news bulletins.

    Will he have the humility to put it to bed, will he survive politically, will he drag others into it?

    Tune into the FG Nothing Burger Show later on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Think that Donohue was trying to distance himself from the mess.FG seems to be rolling out z-listers to defend it.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Try educating yourself before posting such tripe. She set up An Cosan, scene of the infamous Jobstown incident. https://www.ancosan.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,522 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Neale Richmond was so monumentally bad he was the story for a while. Barry Ward looked like he was going to spontaneously combust last night too.

    The abiding impression from TD's and fans is the huff about being caught. They can't believe that they would be held accountable for stuff like this, watch and listen to the pain on Coveney's face and in his voice as he tries to explain this...again. The pain of somebody who cannot grasp why he is in the ****. While Varadkar is like a bold child, nonchalantly sitting in the corner, blaming everyone else while probing his proboscis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    It's like the calm before the storm, have been listening to Morning Ireland, pretty limp coverage generally, a little known independent senator (on the foreign affairs committee) spoke briefly, he certainly has many questions to ask and seemed to suggest other ministers might called in to explain themselves, most notably, Pascal.

    Seems no one from FFG available to talk this morning, any wonder I suppose after yesterday's extraordinarily bad media performances.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is certainly looking bad for Coveney, Varadkar and Martin. There's a reluctance to defend Coveney. Richmond probably wishes by now that he had one of the ordinary RTE types interviewing him instead of Sarah McInerney. Didn't see the Barry Ward appearance. Think that the committee meeting is live this morning.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    All excellent observations but I think MM had rather prematurely defended Coveney 🤔 over the weekend, seemed to think (bizzarely) there's been an over reaction generally. Now he's tongue twisted and perhaps feeling quite the fool after yesterday's revelations, just my own observation but had he stayed Quite (I know not easy), FG would have had to get out of this mess alone whilst FF smelling of roses as FG implode, just seems to me MM, jumped the gun a little and in essence dragged himself and FF into this debacle 🤔

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Holy smoke. Only managed to listen to that this morning on my drive into work, poor auld Neale, sent out to defend the indefensible, and gutted like a kipper.

    Really should stick to photoshopping his head onto story's about the Kinihan gang.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Martin is very much a beta male. He's not a leader. That's why FG can run ring around him. He acts like an FGer rather than an FFer and the FFers seem to be running out of patience with him. Coveney should go and so should Varadkar and Martin. The problem is that unless there is simultaneous regime change in FF and FG, there will be no movement and the FFG crony coalition will continue to lose support. There's also that decision on whether or not to prosecute Varadkar over the leaks that has to be made soon. The cabinet leaks have yet to be considered.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Gavan Reilly makes an excellent point here.


    FG members repeatedly contradicting FG members. Are any of them on the same page at all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    If this is true.


    Coveney needs to be gone first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,455 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Once I heard the phone hacking lies I knew a hole had been dug.

    Will it be the same story this morning, or a new one ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,135 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The position Was Coveney's to grant. Its not a diplomatic position, its a short term contract for a cultural envoy. Barry Ward is mistaken.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,522 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What time does the D.F.A. Committee meet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Regards…jmcc



  • Posts: 447 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Posting on a thread about a "nothing burger" - odd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Is anyone up in arms about the previous envoys that were appointed?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Well it would be the same process as before, but I can tell you don't care nor know about all those other envoys. Which means this whole thing is melodrama.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    "If would be the same process as before"???

    Are you saying all other previous envoys accepted jobs months before they were actually officially offered it, and then these other envoys went on to draft the job specs would be to suit themselves and justify the position to begin with, and several ministers have been shown to be telling porkies ref what electronic communications was held about it, and some of them may actually have broken FOI rules and legislation?

    Not to mention the timelines involved, they were checking impacts of pension entitlements, what and how they would word this role, and when and how theyd announce it, while literally hundreds of people here were dying daily due to a pandemic.


    We know Zappones is riddled with all of the above, so let's deal with this one for now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,635 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Simon reading straight of prepared script. Taking questions now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The same process as in, it was under the purview of the Minister to appoint a special envoy.


    Let us not pretend that there was some well-established procedure and process for appointing UN envoy's all this time but this one is somehow different.

    That of course isn't true. Let me guess, off the top of your head, you cant name a single other UN envoy Ireland appointed either....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Sinn Fein looking ever more appealing.



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