Irish schools being sent ideological gender identity "pledge packs"

MilkyToast · 06-09-2021 12:54pm #1

https://twitter.com/lordmayordublin/status/1434166401640673292?s=21

How many parents do you reckon will be comfortable with their kids being "asked" by people in authority in their schools to signs pledges to "normalise and respect the display of all pronouns"?

A "zero tolerance" attitude toward discrimination seems like it's actually just swinging the door wide open to bullying if any child does not buy into ideological gender identity ideas. And then the pledge to be a good preacher and spread the word on social media.

Do Irish parents know this is happening in their kids' schools?

Seems to be a case of "Meet the new priests; same as the old priests".

LMD Twitter account has since limited who can reply, after a wholly negative response.

Pherekydes · 06-09-2021 1:35pm

The schools have had ideology shoved down their pupils' throats since the Vatican took control. Sorry, hell's out! Forever!

Most definitely not the same as the old priests!

LLMMLL · 06-09-2021 1:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058207607/irish-schools-being-sent-ideological-gender-identity-pledge-packs

Looks like a great initiative. They should be commended.

06-09-2021 1:46pm

At least it will get a few people to think twice before bullying someone, as many people experienced back in the day (not that many days back either.)

Considering back in my day in the late 90s I was told to “shut up you q——!“ … by a teacher. I’m very glad to see things have moved on!

We basically had total silence on those issues or shockingly immature attitudes by certain staff.

conorhal · 06-09-2021 1:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853485#Comment_117853485

Basically, 'it's our turn now!'

It's amazing how fast the 'woke' have become the new clergy.

LLMMLL · 06-09-2021 1:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853531#Comment_117853531

I think the OP thinks you were bullying that teacher.

Mrs OBumble · 06-09-2021 1:50pm

They / them is plural, and so can only be used to refer to more than one person. That's just basic English.

Apart from that, I will happily use whatever pronouns a person wants to their face, and when talking or writing about them. Including zhey/zee. I would expect children to be taught to so the same, without special packs being required. That's just basic politeness.

But whatever the name or pronouns, if a person has male body parts, I expect them to use male facilities. If they have female body parts, they are welcome to use female facilities. If their body is indeterminate, then we need to provide neutral/disabled facilities.

06-09-2021 1:53pm

Anything to stop bullying of children can only be a good thing.

06-09-2021 1:58pm

They do look like religion books :-)

Danzy · 06-09-2021 1:58pm

The same middle class entitlement, righteousness and arrogance that sent it's children to be the control freak clergy raging against sin and immorality.

I've no problem with LGBT rights or people but I despise the woke priests as much as their previous incarnations.

Any one still remember when the left wasn't so rich kid arrogant.

06-09-2021 2:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853624#Comment_117853624

Outrage at what amounts to an anti bullying campaign...

06-09-2021 2:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853559#Comment_117853559

And what if they say that's not enough? You have to allow men use women's bathrooms etc. or else we will cancel you.

Also why is there a pledge being shoved down peoples throats at all? These things are protected by law, what's the agenda here?

RobbieTheRobber · 06-09-2021 2:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853686#Comment_117853686

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

If turnips were watches, I'd wear one by my side.

If "ifs" and "ands" were pots and pans,

There'd be no work for tinkers' hands.

06-09-2021 2:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853719#Comment_117853719

One of your most on topic posts ever.....

Geuze · 06-09-2021 2:18pm

Who is sending out these packs to schools?

Feisar · 06-09-2021 2:29pm

I'm here laughing at people thinking this will stop bullying. I and I'd say may others had a journal in school. We had to sign ours under an anti bullying pledge. Great job that done!

Feisar · 06-09-2021 2:31pm

I'll respect anyone or anything. However please do not try and tell me this is normal. That's my view, please respect it and I'll call you whatever you like.

06-09-2021 2:32pm

I don't see too much of an issue with any of those pledges except the pronouns crap.

Encourage diversity is a little odd maybe. Perhaps a rephrasing to "be accepting of diversity".

timmyntc · 06-09-2021 2:35pm

The pronouns thing is madness - the only pronouns you have are I/me.*

Everyone else can refer to you as they like - to force someone else to refer to you in a specific way is not politeness, its power.

*Unless you're the Queen of England, one does not refer to oneself in the first person.

Faugheen · 06-09-2021 2:40pm

Nice to see this thread is going as well as predicted.

Mass hysteria over what is essentially an anti-bullying campaign.

Gatling · 06-09-2021 2:44pm

Utterly ridiculous no pupils should be ever asked to make such a rediculous pledge ,the sooner there is push back on these pro trans Ideological views the better

Gentlemanne · 06-09-2021 3:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853858#Comment_117853858

I've never seen you so explicity idenfity as anti-transgender rights. Thank you for your honesty!

Hector Savage · 06-09-2021 3:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853619#Comment_117853619

Of course, it's the latest cult !

And just after getting rid of one cult, people want to embrace another, utter madness...

Hector Savage · 06-09-2021 3:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853844#Comment_117853844

Well, it's destruction of the english language , who the hell introduced "Zir" ? "Xir" etc ?

What is this crap, I want to be known as "jsdkgjsdfkgjk" from now on, that's my pronoun.

06-09-2021 3:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853559#Comment_117853559

“I was talking to John early on”

”oh how are they getting on?”

Standard or Hiberno-English - works fine in either. It doesn’t only apply to the plural and never has.

If you go back a century or so, we would have been referring to you as “the posteress” as opposed to just “the poster.”

Language changes, and they / them is used quite frequently. It’s just extended a little.

Fandymo · 06-09-2021 3:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853559#Comment_117853559

There are males and females. Their chromosomes tell us which is which. I use he or she depending on XX or XY. This gender nonsense needs to be nipped in the bud. If people ignored it, it would go away.

Tchaikovsky · 06-09-2021 3:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853646#Comment_117853646

Some just want a cruel thread to remain within Irish society

06-09-2021 3:28pm

Teaching children to respect other people and other people's wishes seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

Hector Savage · 06-09-2021 3:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117854079#Comment_117854079

On the surface it would appear so, but not when it's dictated speech, and they are forced to use the correct pronouns otherwise be accused of "hate speech" - but not even that, just bullied into it by ideological teachers ...

Check out bill C16 in Canada if you want to see how slippery this slope is.

andala · 06-09-2021 3:39pm

Signing pledges by kids who have very little if at all understanding of basic biology, social convention or psychology of gender identity is a brilliant idea. It will have as much impact as drawing flowers with a piece of chalk on the pavement has on stopping war or confirmation pledges have on preventing kids from drinking. Seriously, how stupid people who come up with this nonsense are?

Gatling · 06-09-2021 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853973#Comment_117853973

I identify as a boardsie who doesn't buy into this this fake ideology

Irish schools being sent ideological gender identity "pledge packs"

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