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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,175 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    That is the equivalent of 24litres of water. I would think it is very little. Most lads have no idea of the difference between fresh weight and mart weight. Did you ever watch the amount of liquid that comes out of a slurry tank in a truck. Most of the weight is lost in the truck spin. Especially if it's s distance.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    3.5 euro per kg of meal…… it would want to be gold laced!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    A lot of the dealers I know would put the cattle in the night before and give them their fill of hay / haylage as its would be dryer and and the cattle would drink more. It probably helps them retain a few kgs but overall it wouldn't be that much. Once you move cattle at all in a trailer they will loose a few kgs (would guess 20 kgs handy enough) plus there can be a difference of circa 20 kgs between the scales in some marts. I know of 1 mart cattle always seem to weigh a bit heavier when they come from it than others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Jayus imagine the furore of keeping a suckler cow if meal cost €3.50 a kg.......

    a ton 1,000kg costs say circa €300 is 30cent a kg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭DBK1




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭SuperTeeJay


    Sold another 6 heifers today. Same story. 4 lost 50/55kg.one lost 30kg and another lost 25kgs.

    Weighed around 40 last year and the majority lost 20/30 kgs.Hence the reason i questioned the weights.

    Disappointing when they lose a third of their weight gain since march in one day!

    Thanks for replies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Everyone else that sold today is in the same boat so I wouldn’t worry too much about it and move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,677 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Good trade today in devlin mart.


    Got 2.30 per kg for AAX and 1.8 per kg for some FR



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    What weight would fresian bullocks need to be now to get to 330kg by mid march assuming average silage plus 1kg meal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭DBK1


    E/U grade heifer sale in Gortatlea last night. Some top quality animals in it. The best price I saw was a black Belgian Blue 435kgs make €2,080, €4.78/kg!

    I bought a few more normal priced ones at it. Had to give from €2.60 - €2.80/kg for 270 - 330kg limousine heifers. They’d be all U grade stock so I thought it wasn’t too bad to get them at that price but I definitely won’t be buying as many as I normally would unless the prices come back a bit more.



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  • Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Serious quality in it. There was some great store 20 born heifers too.

    Im going tonight to the suckler sale, ive the holy water ready!!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    I was talking to a fellow Sligo man during the week that was all set to go down tonight. He ventured to the general sale a fortnight ago and bought a few teams and is interested in more. I'm working tonight and only for that I'd have went for the spin. It's probably a blessing in disguise as I'd only buy something and it's a fair trek home with a load of stock and anything could happen where the same man is involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭DBK1




  • Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sold 2. 2 yr old roan six incalf to saler for dec. €2000 . She weighted 625kg but i thought she looked butty in the ring.

    Other lady was a roany Six cow 2nd calver for next feb €1620. Fine price. I wanted €3500 for the 2 so i was happy.

    Alot of the heifers below were ginormous 3 year old yoke. How in christs name youd calve them.

    There was value in the cows n calves , a dealer bought a good few of the pairs sold "running with a bull" . He split the whole lot of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Bought 2 on Thursday there PBR heifers calving March 1340 and 1220 happy enough. Can't get over the lad from Kilkenny bringing heifers down there was alot of 36 to 40 month 3 and 4 owner heifers there made no sense to me.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    It's a tight touch for the 2nd calver imo, it's a long time from now until February and it probably wouldn't take much more to buy her then. There was a handy first calving CHx heifer tonight coming in December to ZAG at €1200. A friend of mine remarked that she wasn't dear but I reckon you'd buy her softening to calve for near the same money at Xmas. It's one thing buying a springer at the money ready to calve but I could never understood paying strong money for something 4,5 or 6 months gone.

    The dry cow's seemed very dear in our town tonight both beef and store's. I carried a few cow's to it and couldn't understand what they made tbh. A bare handy 09 born CHx cow 595kg at €1120 I don't know where you'd go with her. If she was a €100 less you'd still say it was alright. Cattle seemed to have strengthened this week again even the plainer types.



  • Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ya i was talking to a friend of mine from clare he said the cows in ennis thurs were a sight, funnily the blks yesterday were back there. The main buyer never showed up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,175 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    600 kg Continental cows were making 2.2/ kg. There must have been promises made to some finishers for them to be hung before Christmas. For a finisher them cows need a price of 4.4+/kg to leave a 100 euro margin. Most must be going to NI I expect.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Talking to a northern agent during the week said they donr know where their going to get beef from in the back end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,502 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I heard the same and procurement manager remarked it might be very tight in a few weeks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭High bike


    Anyone at the show and sale of weanlings in scariff today,saw 2 ch x heifers sold 245 kg 1710,265kg 1720.nice money if u can get it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭DBK1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭DBK1


    It’s always a nice feeling when you’re leaving the mart happy! Too often it does be the opposite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,175 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I have been watching a few mart's lately and one thing I cannot understand is how lads are not moving stores with the strong prices. When the weather breaks weight will be hard put on these cattle on some farms. Extra weight will not compensate for any price drop. There is supposed to be 200k extra 2020 cattle compared to 2019. Stores are slow to appear in marts, the good weather has slowed them down further. In the the last three weeks stores have gone up by 100/ head instead of starting to drop. We are going to see some glut of cattle hit the marts when the weather breaks

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Weanling trade is heating up too. I reckon the knock effect of high store and finishing prices along with less numbers of good quality Weanlings about it is going to drive the Weanling prices much higher.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    I can't speak for you're part of the world Bass but I'm not expecting a glut of cattle as such with us. The marts will get gradually larger from now on until late autumn but I don't think there's huge numbers to be traded like other year's. I never witnessed as much cattle going through the marts locally in June, July and August as was the case this year.

    Generally after mid May throughput would fall off a cliff until the beginning of September but that never happened during the summer gone by. One of the marts I frequent had almost 300 cattle at a sale in late July which would be unheard of. The corresponding week last year saw just over 100 head offered. It was a similar story every week, 200-250 head where as other year's there'd be less than 100 cattle on offer.

    It was the same in the majority of marts here in the North West to the best of my knowledge. I'd ask lads was there much in Castlerea/Dowra/Ballina ect and they'd all comment that you'd swear it was October not July with the yards of cattle present. Granted a certain amount of lad's took advantage of the red hot live trade for factory fit stock especially cows but that only accounts for a certain amount of the excess. There's a world of stock of all kinds traded during the summer that would usually have been held until the autumn. I'd be of the opinion that there'll be no serious big shows of stock from now until Xmas and I don't see any great collapse in prices likely in the medium term.



  • Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thats spot on, saless were exceptionally big in july aug , those sellers are all grass now and back buying stores. No fear of trade going anywhere a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I'd have seen the same in the marts around here (midlands) as well. Far bigger sales all summer than what would be the norm. The sales will get bigger over the next 2 months but I doubt they'll be as big as they normally would other years. I'll be trying to buy stock so I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and see a bit of a drop in the prices but I'm doubtful it'll happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Carnaross Mart was the same all summer, due to Covid they held the bullocks & calves on a Monday with heifers & cull cows on a Thursday. Due to the numbers they have been getting they couldn't go back to a 1 day sale the Monday as the yard wouldn't be able to hold all the cattle. It was nearly full every Monday & Thursday.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,175 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Maybe for Suckler type stock but very little bucket fed stick gone through marts yet. There is supposed to be 200k extra 2020 v 2019 born stock. All of the extra stock are dairy bred stock. Killmallock is finishing at 3 pm or before it every Monday at present, it was1.30-2pm for June/July. Most cattle going through Gortnalea are 450+ at this stage. Castleisland is finishing at 4-4.30pm and Listowel is back at 3 pm finish. I have not seen the light 350-450kg bucket fed store appear yet. Now this to e last year I had only 6-8 cattle bought, I have 23 there at present ( most bought during June) so not under pressure.

    Unless all cattle are 50-100 kgs heavier this year????

    Slava Ukrainii



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