Brexit discussion thread XIV (Please read OP before posting)

the difference is bigger than even these figures suggest

Consumer price inflation UK 2016-2021 9.4%

Consumer price inflation ROI 2016-2021 2.8%

The report that article was sourced from specifically highlights Brexit as having a major impact on the number of HGV drivers in the UK. Also, the UK shortage numbers were taken from early 2020, and the situation was expected to significantly worsen over the summer, again, due to Brexit.

SNIP

An interesting bye-line to all this is that most Leave voters 'and' Tory voters are 50 plus and a large swathe of them are 65+ and 75+. These are the people least likely to have attended university or to have had further education. So it's no coincidence that Brexit ideology is primarily anti-further education. Its adherents are full of 'university of life' stuff and believing that unis are full of snowflakes and leftie liberals (both lecturers and the students) who hate Brexit and the Conservative Party and are a breeding ground for 'leftie woke nonsense'.

In a way, they are actually correct. The biggest threat to Brexitism and right wing populism in England does indeed come from the young and the educated.

According to that article there is one European country with a greater shortage than the UK, which is Poland. But Poland isn't experiencing supermarket shortages and filling station closures because it hasn't decided to leave the Single Market while suffering from a HGV driver shortages. The point about the UK is that the effects of the driver shortage have have been compounded by unilateral, unconstrained, self-destructive choices.

I dunno. Once you've sacrificed your youngest child to the Sun God it's very hard to accept that the Sun God doesn't exist and you've done this appalling thing for no good reason. This is how the Inca rulers used to assure themselves the loyalty of the nobles of provinces newly incorporated into the Inca empire.

Brexit isn't quite on a par with sacrificing your children to the gods, but the same principle applies. Once you have voted to inflict harm on yourself and your country, you are highly motivated to believe that what you have done is right and worthwhile. So Brexit supporters will tend to cling to the belief that (a) all the bad outcomes of Brexit are not, in fact, outcomes of Brexit, or (b) if they are, which is denied, they are justified by the Greater Good of Sovereignty, Blue Passports and owning the libs. Getting past this will be a years-long project and will require a new generation of political leaders who are not tainted by complicity in Brexit.

Britain’s investment in the financial technology industry has hit a new record, with almost £18bn worth of deals in the first half of this year, placing the UK second in the world behind the US.

Irish construction workere head to the UK for better wages. I know 6 civil engineers who have left even after construction reopened.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/construction-sector-lost-10-of-workers-during-covid-darragh-obrien-1247032?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1630657522

We need to build up capacity in the sector,” he said. “The sector actually has contracted by about 10% in human resources because of the pandemic – many people in the sector left and went to continental Europe and Britain.

The UK public were lied to when they were told immigration doesn't reduce wages. It was total lies.

UK accepting Irish immigrants in search of higher wages proves that immigration lowers wages. Right, gotcha.

you have to collar the politicians that let these pressures build up from 20 years back assuming it influenced the vote but Its spilled beer at this stage. There is just a certain amount of Schadenfreude about the whole thing

Aren't Irish citizens resident in England already found to have an income 41% above their British counterparts?

Interestingly, even Vote Leave never used the 'EU immigration depresses wages' argument in any of their literature. For some strange reason, it has surfaced among 2021 Brexiteers and they are claiming it as a big factor in their vote to leave.