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Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface




  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    2mm/hr? Sure they'd be drowning in the cockpits!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Any weather forecast over 5 days isn't worth it's salt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,347 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    What about the design and construction of the track surface at Spa? There must be faults there. I don't know how pools of standing water can form on an F1 racetrack. It's rare enough to see that on a standard motorway for example. Conditions in Spa were far from monsoon like and it's not as if they are not used to rainfall. Watching the coverage yesterday there appeared to be no serious attempts made to clear water from the track.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,606 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    You know, if Bernie was still in charge the race would probably have been off the calendar since Hubert.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭barryribs


    Benevolent Bernie had it off the calendar when the cigarette money dried up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,184 ✭✭✭✭klose


    I see callum ilott has posted a cryptic post online saying he has news soon, wonder is he getting that alfa seat for next season?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭Harika


    Bottas to sauber is rumoured to be announced at Monza. This will trigger the announcement of Russell to Mercedes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,993 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Only read a few mins ago on Twitter that Russell found out this weekend that he’ll be at Merc next year!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    Lots of rumours and stories, but until it's officially announced I'll believe nothing.

    It'd be great to see though. At this stage we know Bottas has no more than a 1% chance of beating Hamilton over a season. Fingers crossed that Russel can properly challenge him.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    With the amount Russell was smiling over the duration of when the race was meant to be on I'd hope it was because he'd had good news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭eljono


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    My guess is whoever wrote this post, didn't watch the race...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭quokula


    I find it bizarre that they've managed to come to the conclusion that it was the fact that the fans got to see a podium that was the problem, not the fact that the fans didn't get to see a race.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Loads of people made a big deal out of in in the race thread. A "slap in the face" to fans and so on.

    Like I said, i don't think it was the main problem, it was just a very visible symptom of the whole thing. The main problem is that a race didn't take place and the second problem is that, for business reasons, points were awarded. The podium procession was just an offshoot of those problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭quokula


    It would have been far worse if the fans were forced to go home having seen nothing at all, and if all the heroic efforts in qualifying counted for absolutely nothing. Have the people moaning asked if any of the fans who actually attended the circuit would have been happier if they just saw nothing instead of those few laps behind the safety car and a podium? Would they really have been happier to go home having wasted the entire day? Given that the medical car had been circulating and saying the grip levels weren't bad, it's better that they at least made one last attempt, however half arsed, to send the cars out and see how the track conditions were than to not have bothered at all.

    The tickets already cover the support races etc, which ran fine in the same conditions. Domenicali has already stated very clearly that there were no commercial reasons behind going back out, and nobody has identified any actual terms and conditions that show that it would affect refunds or otherwise - that's little more than a conspiracy theory some people have been throwing out there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Well, I don't claim to be an expert. So I don't really know what else can be said about it that hasn't already been said. It's unfortunate that the race didn't happen but I'll just dry my tears and wait for the next race at the weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,338 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    I don’t see this anywhere on George Russell’s Twitter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭quokula


    It's just a rumour, though it's been widely reported. It was also widely reported that he'd be announced for Mercedes back in Silverstone and that never happened so I'll wait for something official.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,993 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Not Russell’s Twitter, it was just mentioned on Twitter by one of those ITK accounts



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,606 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Maybe look at swapping France and Belgium over. The closer you can get the Belgian Grand Prix to the June 21st solstice the less likely you'll be washed out and the more daylight you can play with if it is inclement.

    Meanwhile Paul Ricard is in the south of France so the weather tends to stay more pleasant longer into the Autumn and even if it rains, it stands to reason that a test track with artificial sprinklers would have good drainage and those wide run offs with the abrasive tarmac should prevent any serious shunts from causing any traumatic injury.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,606 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Article on Racefans reckons Russell to Merc, Bottas and De Vries to Alfa Romeo, Albon to Williams. Giovanazzi, Kimi gone. Makes a lot of sense to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,606 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    A double hit on Mercedes-Benz by Sauber 🤔 and possibly the first transfer from Formula E to F1.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭Harika


    Makes no sense at all. Why should Sauber favor a Mercedes junior that didn't do as well as illott or Schumacher who are Ferrari academy drivers. Shwartzman would also make more sense than that.

    Albon to Williams? Why would red bull pay a fifth cockpit when they can axe Tsunoda or Gasly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,606 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I think the idea is that Albon would cut ties with Red Bull ala Carlos Sainz when he moved to McLaren.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,184 ✭✭✭✭klose


    The red bull/ alpha tauri situation is interesting, perez is extended till 2022, surely if gasly keeps going the way he is they'll have to look at him to come in for perez for 2023?

    Tsunoda is hardly pulling up any trees (of course its his rookie season) but another year like that season in 2022 I think he may lose his seat, could potentially be two Alpha tauri seats going for 2023 if albon would want to wait that long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭Harika


    Gasly might be eyed by Alpine for 2023.

    Tsunoda has another year and until then one of the red bull academy drivers might be ready to step up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah Albon could take that chance, but ocon took a chance like that and ended up out if the sport for a year. According to Joe Saward, Ocon signed with Alpine a few weeks ago precisely because he knew Bottas would be coming on the market and if he wasn't careful he would end up without a drive again. The moral of the story is that one bird in the hand...

    Albon might gladly take a seat at Williams. One year out is bad enough, 2 years out could be fatal and there's no guarantee he would even get a drive in 2023.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,938 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Alpine have Oscar Piastri on their books, he's won the Formula Renault and F3 titles in the last 2 years and currently leading the F2 championship. If he goes on to win the championship I could see him spending next year as test/reserve driver and in with a shout of a race seat for 2023



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