Boosters

I'm not dismissing the figures, but can you link to where the HSE provides that info. I didn't think they were releasing that kind of detail.

There's a lot of things you can do to reduce your risk of getting a severe dose of covid. Boosters are the easy way out but why is there no push for people to improve their lifestyle? Why aren't they publishing the info on comorbidities like the amount of obese people, people with hypertension, chronic smokers etc. that are dying from this so we can make our populations more resilient to any disease going forward.

Of course healthy people have died from Covid but it seems from the reading I have done that they are the exception.

Boosters were always coming and to me it's alarming how many people are not willing to make adjustments to their lifestyle to protect themselves and are instead continuing to live an unhealthy lifestyle while relying on shots. The majority of the population seem to go along with whatever the advice of the government is so why aren't the government pushing healthier life choices? They would probably get a great reaction out of it rather than the prolonged restrictions which lead to a more sedentary lifestyle and therefore make people more prone to a bad dose.

The approval was under pressure from the Biden admistration. Nothing about how these vaccines got approved sits well with me.

Even when it's approved here I won't trust it because there's just so much political pressure. I don't trust that negative data would be correctly reported because politically it would be a nightmare, and the vaccine would still be for the greater good. Like with the masks, we were lied to, that they actually cause covid to spread more and not to buy them, then when the greater good was satisfied (hospitals stocked), masks became mandatory because that was the greater good then. Data about deaths (age, weight, co-morbidities) was concealed because NPHET didn't want to give us all the facts in case we got "the wrong idea", with the facts.

I'm not saying it's not safe at all, people who want it should absolutely get it. I might even get it myself in a year in the unlikely event I still haven't had covid. If I was old or fat I'd take it today.

Then maybe the derision that non vaccinated people face should be directed at the unhealthy that have resulted in the requirement for a vaccine to be rolled out to everybody rather than just the vulnerable like the flu shot. Not that I would condone that as I believe everyone should be free to make their own choices when it comes to their body but I would find it hard listening to someone that is obese giving out about people not getting vaccinated when in all other areas of their life they don't care about their health.

I didn't state any percentages or numbers but it's widely accepted the healthier you are the less likely you going to get a severe case. Also I don't believe the numbers are reported in a transparent way stating how many patients in ICU have comorbidities. If there was more transparency on those numbers then a rough estimate of the above percentages could be made and a risk analysis conducted based on that.

Based on how the population has gone along with everything the government has said I do believe that if they had promoted a healthy lifestyle it would have been picked up by people. I'm not saying all people but there was an opportunity lost here and not just for the covid response but for the betterment of Irish society as a whole. We're over 18 months with Covid on the scene, a lot of people could have improved their health considerably in that time which would then have had a positive effect on the Covid numbers and in general hospital admissions.

Do you think that the solution here long term is boosters for the foreseeable future? I don't. I can see the first booster being taken up in good numbers but as time passes less and less will bother, just like the flu jab.

I don't think anyone can answers the questions you have asked as the information is not being shared by the authorities as I pointed out but it is widely accepted that the majority of people dying from Covid have comorbidities or are at an advanced age. Of course there are the exceptions of perfectly healthy people dying of Covid but if people are going to rely on these exceptions as a reason to pressure people into getting vaccines then they should also consider the exceptions when there is an adverse reaction or a death due to a Covid vaccine.

You referenced non vaccinated people as selfish, if that's the case I would label obese people and smokers as selfish too and not just over Covid. Their life choices costs the taxpayers a considerable amount money each year regardless if Covid is around or not. They have cost the public more money than unvaccinated will. I actually don't understand this approach anymore, the vaccine is more of a prophylactic now. Doesn't prevent you getting it or spreading it, it protects the taker from a severe reaction that's all. Something that can be achieved just as well by being a healthy person.

I think the reason they don't share it is due to what is widely reported that a significant percentage of those dying have multiple comorbidities. Although this isn't widely reported on within the media for some reason. Healthier people would then be able to make up their own mind whether to get the vaccine and the uptake wouldn't be where it is.

I think the first booster will not be as widely taken as the initial vaccine and after that it will drop off a cliff.

The GOP are mostly hard working , not sucking off the government so this wouldn’t entice them! I don’t care who got jabbed and who didn’t , it’s non of my business. I take care of my own body , been working around people 6 days a week for 16 months without catching a cold , I think I got this. Since me getting vaccinated or not makes zero difference to anyone around me then what’s the point. 99.8%.

You don’t really know much about trump supporters do you ? How does a 75 yr old obese man have anything to do with what I put in my body?

If you believe the death rate for a second then i am not the ignorant one here. Last April my family member came home and told me that they were being told to write covid 19 on the death certificates of a couple who had been thrown through the windscreen of their car and died on the way to hospital. That was the first I heard of anything. The hospitals were empty, nurses being laid off due to lack of patients , while the media was telling us at the same hospital, bodies were piling up in the parking lot?!

I was living in the middle of it while you were home in watching CNN.

Maybe you should move to Australia where the government will keep you nice and safe from the 4 cases of covid and the army will beat you back into your house if you dare to go out and get some fresh air and vitamin d.

Since you have assumed so much about me being a conspiracy theorist, anti vax, ignorant trump supporter, I’d assume you are unemployed, depending on the government to feed you so you can watch the news all day and judge people on forums? I’d be interested to know what your BMI is also since you asked what I do with my body? I hope ,being so in fear of covid that you are not over weight like 75% of people in hospital?

It has been widely reported that vaccinated people can still contract and pass on the virus. Nothing untrue about that. Also, if they can't even settle on the dose amount, if boosters are require, lasting efficacy of the vaccines I don't think you can say they know everything about the vaccines effectiveness and future use.