My €100m BEAM scheme

No.

No it’s not.

You have linked to Annex 3 a few times.

did you read it?

Read the first paragraph below and then offer your apologies.

you have to read back on all the posts, starting with Tanko's post asking if he could import pig slurry.

You can read every single post on the whole Boards website if you like. The answer to the question being asked by Tanko will still be the same.

Exports or Imports are NOT used in the calculations for beam.

Please provide the link and the statement where this is in the T n Cs.

It doesn't say that slurry exports are used to calculate your nitrates but it goes without saying that you cannot export slurry in order to reduce your nitrates. If you try to do so then those figures would probably be used as a stick to beat you if you haven't achieved the 5% reduction.

Did other people receive their letters last week confirming that they had met the requirements of the scheme. It was a good enough scheme for those who were feeding/finishing a few although the confusion over the mix up of the Balancing figure letter was unfortunate.

I think I partly understand what you’re trying to say now but you’re describing a scenario that’s not possible to happen.

I think what you mean is if a farmer in beam tries to declare that he has reduced his slurry by 5% by exporting slurry that the department won’t accept this and will then use the figures he has given for exports so therefore by your reckoning the export figures are then included in the calculation, is that it?

If this is what you mean then you are describing a situation that’s impossible to be in. There is nowhere that a farmer can declare their figures or there is no method for a farmer to add in or take away amounts. The figures are calculated by the department based on your herd numbers on AIM. There is nowhere that imports or exports can be added or taken away so it is never possible for a farmer to even try and declare they have exported slurry for beam.

To put it in plain and simple english, as we have been saying all evening, Imports and exports are not used in Beam calculations and make no difference to you production figures.

If that’s not what you’re trying to say then I give up!!

What I am saying is that under the T&C's exporting slurry in order to reduce your nitrates isn't allowed. You, Bass and 893 stated that exports aren't calculated yet DAFM state Slurry exports are not reckonable as reduction.

Anyway getting back to Tanko's question - BEAM T&C's only mention the reduction of Bovine slurry so therefore by my reckoning the importation of porcine slurry doesn't apply. However, I would discuss same with an Ag advisor before importing same in case it impacts on your overall nitrates figure.

What are you on about.

check with **** no one. Do what you like with slurry.

It means **** all. it won’t help you or hinder you.

If exporting helped base would meet it based on the shite he is spreading.

Reading through some posts on this thread recently,some need to go easy with their use of words.

It ain't life or death on here just yet.or a court of law.

I may have been. And I apologise to base if I offended them and for being aggressive in my posting .

But it has been explained 6 or 7 times to no avail. I have an 18 month old child who can now explain that import and export of slurry is outside the scope of this scheme now at this stage.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! You learn something new everyday

Tell them you didn't realise you had pressed the wrong button/option until you got their letter. No skin off their noses anyway.

How are they proposing the repayment? Taken from bps? All in one lump sum or a phased payment plan?

Do you mean you made a mistake by not changing the ref period to the end of the year? (it can’t be kicked onto next year)