Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

It all just boils down to poor planning and communication Seamus. We wouldn't all be speculating if they just released the plan now instead of waiting another week and half. It's a daft approach and one that makes zero sense. His comments will be read differently depending on the person reading them. What you say makes sense but it's equal valid to suggest SD and masks will be prevalent for indoor settings such as pubs, restaurants, music events, until the spring. As they say, nature abhores a vacuum.

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Ah look, I'm with you on that. "We'll have a plan at the end of the month" smacks of, "We know we're not making any changes before September, so we don't need to do any work on it". I was as irritated by them saying it at the start of this month as I am now.

I can appreciate that in the spirit of not wanting to roll back any restrictions, they wanted to see how August panned out before providing a roadmap. But they should have produced something. Even if it was littered with asterisks about infection levels and vaccination rates, it would answer the very simple questions like, "Will we see live indoor gigs this side of Xmas", "Will outdoor events like Xmas markets and Octoberfest be open", "Can I have a kids' birthday party at a play centre in October".

The answer doesn't have to be "definitely, 100% yes". People will be happy with, "Yes, that is absolutely the plan".

If they'd had the foresight to do this, then the likes of the Dublin Marathon could have pressed ahead instead of just abandoning because nobody could give them any semblance of an answer as to whether an event could be held.

And you KNOW this , how ?

Lol, I know what you are saying you think you know but you guys would not believe unless you had your face pressed up against an ICU cubicle door !

I know it to be true, that's why I bothered to write the post .

Take it or leave it , the people in ICU are being treated with a heck more than cough medicine and paracetamol .

People can twist themselves up into a pedantic mess all they want, arguing that we don't yet know the specifics of exactly which restrictive measures will remain in place for the next year.

It doesn't change the fact that we've today all been told by the leader of our country that "restrictions" will remain with us well into 2022. It doesn't matter exactly what the restrictions are. He's clearly telling us not to expect much of a change.

That's absolutely sh1t news and people are right to be angry and disheartened.

I don't understand the reflex of the extreme pedants on this forum who constantly downplay the impact of this stuff every single time we get an announcement such as this.

A few more weeks etc.

I brought up ICU because I work in ICU .

I know that on the Covid ward where I work that the nurses are flat out with the patients they have there whether they are admitted with Covid or something else and test positive .

Anybody not ill who cannot leave hospital for whatever reason would be few and far between .

But don't take my word on it .

I have posted in good faith here .

You obviously know more than staff looking after these patients.

Do you work in a hospital or are you psychic?

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One big difference there , look at the timing .

I would wait to hear all the details including the coroners report .

For all those thinking social distancing and mask wearing is very restricted look at New Zealand , and only 20% vaccinated there .

Seriously some people on here need to get a grip .

I think you may have some difficulty understanding so I will say it slowly...

Patients with Covid in hospital include very sick patients in ICU..

I told you already what the situation is , more than once now.

You don't accept my word .

You don't believe anything I or others say on the matter .

You think it is all a conspiracy to keep you ignorant , when in fact that is your own choice . You have been given the information , you choose to disregard it or not believe it .

Data protection precludes anymore details which may identify patients from being given by the HSE .

You don't accept that either

It's like talking to a wall, a rubber wall that just keeps bouncing back 🙄

Am done with this .

Look again . They have been in lockdown since June . Jeez .