VAT exemption on items under €22 from outside EU disappearing on 1 July 2021

So how does one proceed to appeal this double charge? I mean it may look like chump change but given that it can happen to hundreds of people daily it amounts to a considerable amount not to mention anpost 3.50 charge applied where there should have been none?

Do you need to contact the seller to provide you Import One Stop Shop (IOSS) number for your order where you already paid tax and you need then to appeal the second charge made by anpost who will hold your package for 16 days until you pay?

I just order stuff which they ship from EU warehouses - they primarily use Netherlands and Spain. I got few packages with sticker I do not remember what it said exactly. It was something in a sense - "we know where this came from and it should be taxed...", but since it was posted from Netherlands, attaching that sticker was the most they could do.

All the more so for the work involved.. There is more to customs clearance than sending an email asking for payment.. An Post probably pay less at the have big volumes but most IT providers charge ~€1 per entry processed on their platform plus you have to pay the wages of the people processing the entries and liasing with customs.. I would imagine an Post are returning stuff without the right info as it is not worth the admin nightmare of getting the correct info to complete a customs entry ..

Not sure if any post do this, but most consolidators allow you to file your own customs clearance if you have a problem paying their fee for the service

I don’t think the problem is the IOSS being physically on the item.. It’s the information not being transferred electronically to an post from the postal operator in China or whoever.. An post don’t actually physically check every box or even present them to a customs officer like a lot of people think..

Yes, an post get the info for the shipment when they do the arrival scan to the bar code on the parcel.. But maybe the IOSS isn’t integrated with the shipping info and is on a separate bar code or QR code that is being over looked.. I don’t think An post even use QR codes, which coincidentally are very popular in China..

I'm just curious if anyone else is getting crazy customs values on their imported items.

I had a package arriving from the USA, valued at $50.00, this was the correct price and not a made up one and clearly printed on the outside of the package and detailing what was inside the package. Revenues own website says the exchange rate they'd be using for August is €1.00 = $1.1772, so unless my figures are completely wrong, then here is were the serious issue is being made and they are in effect robbing their own citizens.

The value of the package upon arrival into Dublin should have been priced in euros at €42.47. However, Customs decided to value the package at €61.92.

After overvaluing my item, the charges didn't even stop there. The vat rate of 23% (on an overcharged valuation) would bring vat owed to the state at €14.24. Then the €3.50 an post fee would bring total amount owed to €17.74. However, upon receiving notification that vat was owed, I was presented with a bill saying I owed €22.35.

I can't reach that figure whatever way I do the maths. So, not only have they f**ked me over on overvaluing the package, they seem to have done it on the vat as well. If I'm wrong on those figures, I'll stand corrected if someone can figure it out.

I've no problems paying vat on any items I import, but I do have a problem with the items contents being overvalued when the price is clearly stated on the outside of the package and on an invoice inside the package had they bothered to check. I'll not be ordering any other stuff from outside the EU in the near future if this is the carry on that's happening with items being imported. It's fu*cking outright greed and a total p!ss take to be honest.

So, they make up a postage fee if none is shown? There was no insurance on the package. They helped themselves to €19.45 on a postage fee? Absolute joke. They'll not get another penny from me anyway.

Thanks for the reply.

This is the relevant bit from the Sticky thread. Someone must know how much the postage was.

The calculation for VAT includes the cost of postage. So if you buy an item for €10, and postage costs €40, then the total is €50 and you pay VAT on that amount. VAT is applied at 23% to the total amount, unless the item you are buying is VAT exempt, or classed at the lower rate of VAT. Duty rates vary, and often it is not even applied at all (except for special rate items like cigarettes and alcohol which are liable to Excise duty).

Discounts are ignored for purposes of calculating charges for customs

If you check your aliexpress transaction details you will see that you paid VAT.

If the seller did not provide the IOSS number it's their problem.

You ought to request a 100% refund from ALI and let AnPost do what they want with the package.

Revenue did a press release on 31 May, these are the RTE and Irish Times versions. Since it is an EU wide change, a lot of foreign companies should have been aware.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/revenue-warns-online-shoppers-of-price-increase-due-to-vat-change-1.4580123

No mention of sending back parcels there, only tax, which I was willing to pay.

whether you get a refund isn't down to the seller. It is down to Aliexpress. Open a dispute and ask for a refund.

probably fraud.

It's not. And even if it is, they don't look for payment after delivery.