There will be a rise in incel related terror attacks

I was thinking the same. Something will have to be done about the incel thing sooner or later. For now nobody really takes the problem seriously

There is no such thing as a "school for scoundrels" like in the 2005 film. Lets say some incel lad wants to change his ways, is there any outlet for them? The online forums are full of putrid vitriol and reading them will only worsen their situation. I've seen worse looking fellas than the Plymouth lad manage to find a beour for themselves so that tells me the problem exists mostly in their own head.

There must be a way to pair up a good share of the women who don't bother trying to find anyone anymore & just spend their days knitting in their hobbit house with the incels.

Most of the Taliban are incel

ISIS was largely an incel movement. Especially the foreign fighters. It was a bunch people tarred as failures by their communities because nobody would marry them. There's huge pressure on Muslim young lads to be married by their early 20s and one night stands are not a thing in those communities.

Angry people being radicalised by the interweb is not new. We all seek out what convinces us we are right. Time was it was terrorism to be alarmed about, now it's anyone with a beef.

The foreign fighters from the likes of the UK, Ireland, France, Belgium were absolute losers. Single males, virginity in-tact, unpopular in school, mediocre family name, no career prospects etc.

Anyone that generally joins or align themselves to be extremist movements ISIS, Antifa, White Nationalist groups, are generally losers in life, just looking for a cause and blaming the world for them being losers. There's never self analysis. Its always somebody else to blame.

I understand what you are trying to get at but it's far too simplistic to say thats why people join Islamic State. You don't sustain a global Jihadist organisation by recruiting "losers".

What I hope you are suggesting is that people out there who have not identified their place in society, seek opportunities (whatever appeals to them) which is what they do.

You are completely correct and I would agree that influence from the likes of QAnon, Boogaloo Bois, Antifa, Supremacist and incels etc manipulate and seek the mal adjusted, directionless and easily led individuals into their ranks. I would describe them as "moderate anti-establishment" individuals whose allegiance may flip flop over time. These groups provide an outlet for rebellion, having your voice heard, "upsetting the current world order" and generally just acting like spoiled children.

Islamic extremist organisations just attract a completely different animal, I think thats where we disagree. However, there are common characteristics to be found among those who are liable to join either grouping.

But you are categorically wrong about the motivations of Foreign Terrorist Fighters.

Y’know, if I’d been challenged to pick a poster who might type that, you’d have been right at the top of a list of one. ;)

Do incels actually exist in the real world? Moral panic for the internet age.

Yet more proof of my theory that there are few things that can't be cured by a good ride.

Absolute nonsense, every single letter you typed is absolute nonsense.

Your particular motivations in life are not applicable to everyone else's.

I'm obviously only posting this as it increases my chances of mating. Have you got a Youtube channel by any chance?

You Sir, are bananas.

What's a beour?

Assuming that it's a normal-looking woman, or better than normal, I think the answer, as someone said, is "expectations". These guys are nothing special (and that's probably being kind) but they seem to feel they have a right to "have" a woman who will skivvy for them as well as being great looking and up for sex whenever they want. Someone from a porn film, IOW.

@jmlad2020

Don't be trying to make these lads the gay's problem. There is a cohort of incels who blame their lack of sex on females solely for their gender not appreciating all those wonderful cretins clear sexual appeal and riding them whenever needed. These lads couldn't pull a man for precisely the same reason they can't pull a woman. Noone, noone is owed sex as a condition of their just "being" and if one chooses to treat people as objects, and lay blame for being ostracized on the world rather than having a modicum of self awareness? Well I'd be fairly sure gayness won't help their cause and I can't see a rush to add "asshole" to the pride flag 🤔 no matter how cool that could be 😝

The problem isn't women, the problem is that a cohort of people are basically becoming western Otaku. That cohort have "socialized" but only with others of thei predilections and it's a self reinforcing circle of stupidity. The lack of female interaction is now not only never their own fault. They now have a support group who agree and will reinforce the notion that women are avoiding and withholding sex, rather than the simple truth that they are quite often choosing a lifestyle and an approach to people that is an antithesis of how to engage with people and women in particular.

It's very much a culture of blaming the bitches and chads, then retreating to the incel safe spaces to be told they are right.

Also as @endacl has said... If I had to point out who on boards could write such a self indulged and whiney OP? The OP would have been my pick too.

That he has chosen to lay his thoughts out and seek to not only justify the Plymouth incident but, also to claim it's likely here? Would honestly lead me to believe it's time to report them to an appropriate authority and hope that perhaps some kind of intervention can be made.

This is not really a new thing, just a new name. Men who for whatever reason lack the social/interpersonal skills to have normal relationships with the people around them, and instead see the world as some form of rule-driven game where you get to have sex and be successful if you play by the rules.

From their point of view, they're playing by the rules, but still losing anyway, while others who are apparently not playing by the rules, are winning. The absurdity of this belief aside, it's easy to see why someone would become frustrated with the world.

It's obviously not a simple fix, it needs to be caught early on, resetting young mens' expectations of life. Most of it comes from a place of misogynism; women are a prize to be seized, chattel for ones' personal gratification, an entitlement.

Peoples' self-awareness is often lacking too. While one may have low self-esteem and feel like they're ugly, fat and unworthy, they also lack the ability to be self-critical. These issues - in their mind - are caused by external factors. Others standing in their way or forcing them to be like they are. Like that moron last week who murdered his mother because he blamed her for his failures in life.

Their issues are 100% their own. All of their problems, they have created for themselves, and they perpetuate themselves. Creating narratives in their head about imaginary "status pills" and blaming their lack of sex on "vapid sexuality". Somehow there are other very ordinary and unremarkable men getting into fulfilling relationships around them, but nevertheless the problem must be society. It can't be their own problems holding them back. Nosir.

In short, we need to be spending as much on mental health as we do on physical health. All of the "take care of your mental health" messaging is great, but ultimately fairly pointless without the structures to back it up. We're dismantling the stigma around admitting that you're not well, but we're still leaving families to have to self-manage mental illnesses that require specific treatment.

It's like saying, "Don't be afraid to talk to your friends if you think you've broken your leg", but providing nowhere to go to actually have a qualified professional look at your leg, put it in a cast and arrange physio afterwards.

I think the internet has definitely exaccerpated the problem. I see the spree killer in England was thrown off reddit, didn't they have a sub reddit for incels?