Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

No.. that should read well ahead of us in infections and death .

Surely it has to do with percentage PCR carried out versus percentage antigen.

I can’t find any breakdown as ECDC data seems to be compiled as totals - combined PCR and antigen.

Consider hypothetically testing 1,000 people with PCR only and positively rate is 5% - were you to have tested same 1,000 with antigen instead, rate would be lower (won’t estimate by how much, there are too many factors, such as frequency, situation, skilled/unskilled application of test, etc.).

So some countries in Europe with a lower percentage of population vaccinated compared to Ireland, have a lower positivity rate in part by virtue of employing antigen testing in certain circumstances. Other factors, such as stage of wave, level of restrictions, of course to be considered too - but antigen testing has a large impact on positive case reports.

I didn't mention Brentford because the UK has dispensed with all restrictions as we all know . No agenda just a fact .

Bundesliga was in correctly stated as full , and they do still have restrictions , if no masks .

I agree at this stage and have said as much before this , our capacity numbers at outdoor events are nonsensical and need urgent review and seem to based on vaccination levels a month behind what we actually are at now.

Masks, masks, masks!!! The horrible fuçking things! I’m absolutely sick of people saying it’s grand, just throw it on for the 10/20 mins I’m in the shop and it’s off. How about the people that have to wear them for 10 hours a day everyday and even then on their day off have to wear them going food shopping etc! Some people live in cloud cuckoo land! I change my masks constantly my skin has gone to shite! I’ve been off the last few weeks and the difference is huge! Much better!

We’ve been told to start living our normal lives once fully vaccinated but well that ain’t going to happen if people think masks need to continue! If personal responsibility isn’t allowed then we are truly never going back to any way near our normal of 2019!!

Most of them have decamped to Mediterranean and other seaside resorts since mid July so there are fewer of them at home to spread it.

Given how dark red those coastal resorts have been for the past few weeks, we can expect Germany to at least go orange over the 2nd half of August.

Also, Germans are better than most at following rules, which is quite a useful trait in a pandemic.

Something that we, and many other countries, haven't fully figured out yet.

Do you have a source that most of the 83 million Germans have moved to the Mediterranean and other resorts since mid July? I ask because I have a feeling you might be exaggerating a little bit.

If a German is annoyed with you they will tell you to your face. If an Irish person is annoyed with you, you probably won't know about it.

Same with protesting and rule breaking. Most Irish people don't bother protesting or don't want to be seen protesting but many in private won't adhere to the rules. During the lockdowns, lots of families in our estate continued to have friends over. Our local beach had groups of 50-100 teenagers hanging out there most evenings. The guards made a token effort to disperse/catch/whatever them one evening and it was Keystone Kops stuff. The kids had lookouts and vamoosed at another exit. In fairness, the guards hearts' probably weren't in it anyway. I wondered at the time if Polizei/Policija/Polisen would have been as relaxed in their enforcement.

You would have to assume so, remember, Ireland measures deaths "with" covid, and hides the numbers of deaths "from" covid.

Which just makes the current low death rate even more suspect. But remember, this is still an emergency.

Lately it seems that old people are swimming in the Cocoon Pool, that none of them die. Of the deaths reported in say last month due to covid, what was the ages of them/?