Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

NPHET don't want any further relaxation of restrictions until the end of September at the earliest. They made that clear in their advice to government when they presented their models. Remember the "choice" open indoor with vaccine passports or keep them shut till the end of September at the earliest. In fact, I believe NPHET would be more than happy for the current restrictions to be left in place over the winter to protect the HSE. The government are going to have to start going against their "advice" more and more now if we are to have a path out of all restrictions.

What point are you trying to make here? It’s not particularly clear and ironically a cheap shot to “get one up on a poster”

comical

I get the impression you also hold others to a different standard than you hold yourself

I use my phone and it auto corrects to that mix of cases when typing out the name, sorry for causing offence

The Government like to fudge the numbers, if you died and had COVID but it wasnt caused by COVID, they counted it.

The point is blatantly obvious but as usual you use defection rather than addressing any of it. The point is you've been against restrictions all the way through but then then call someone out on what they said ages ago and are apparently 'flouting' said restrictions which they aren't. And I'm not trying to 'one up' you, I'm genuinely curious as to why your stance has changed. If you were so anti restrictions why are you singling out a poster who can under the current restrictions work outside?

I also don't hold anyone to any standard, that's their business, I'll look after myself.

Also, there isn't any irony here, they are genuine questions that I don't expect you to answer.

There is no hypocrisy in what the poster is doing.

Also, again what's with the 'nPHEt?

Johnny0toole mention on the previous page that only 8% of the adult population was vaccinated by 24th April. If that was the case, then taking April as a start point is of course going to include many people who had not had the chance to be vaccinated.

Similar to Fauci in the states saying 99.99% of deaths were in the unvaccinated - true because it includes deaths from before vaccines were even a thing.

Fair enough .

I did not get the impression you wanted to discuss anything and were being derogatory about 'education' etc .

ICU nurse . Dublin .

But not for much longer if I have anything to do with it , after the last 18months .

I only discuss what I can without revealing where I work or without breaking confidentiality of any of my patients, or colleagues .

Just because I disagree with you or Fintan, now and again does not make my posts illogical , btw .

We are all entitled to our opinions , but not to ridicule others or attack them for theirs .

I think all of us have been guilty of this at times when discourse gets heated , but having the grace to apologise and accept that others have different opinions is important, at least has been on this thread if not others .

Anyone got any predictions for easing of restrictions in September? Say the first week? Anything meaningful? Not hearing much in the media yet it appear 85% or more will be full vaccinated by then.....I appreciate nobody has a clue for September but no harm in guessing....

By the end of August they will have "a plan" - so by end of September there might be a 1000 limit at sports events, and the dancing ban will be downgraded to permit line dancing (with a mask)

If I recall correctly, Bodhrandude is a musician, so has absolutely been affected by the restrictions, don’t don’t let that stop you. I think he might even be living in Galway, so maybe what he saw in Galway in April annoyed him as he felt it would just increase numbers so we’d be in a even longer lockdown. Give him a break, fgs. The manner in which some posters have gone after him is frankly bizarre.

People are entitled to change their mindset in this ever changing situation.

There could be trouble with this new roadmap especially with NPHET recommending some ludicrous stuff and the government untimely rejecting it

Will members go on twitter and complain?

What ludicrous stuff are they recommending?

What ludicrous stuff has been recommended to come at the end of the month ? You've a habit of jumping the gun well before anything is discussed or announced.

The last press conference they had was actually very optimistic and a drastic change of tone, more than once it was mentioned about removing restrictions and advice to government on how to move on from this now.

Do people actually listen to what's said or just complain without listening ? There's been some god awful press conferences that have been car crashes but multiple times it was referenced advice to government on how to move on from this, that's what looks like will be coming shortly, yet here you predict trouble, magic 8 ball ?

Did you read the original act and that was it or any of the amendments that followed ?

1) Gardai can't enter your home without warrant. They can talk to you at the door as much as they want and issue fines etc at the door but unless you invite them in they can't enter because of a house party

2) Arrest without warrant isn't a covid rule. "You may be arrested without a warrant when a Garda, with reasonable cause, suspects that an arrestable offence has been committed and that you are guilty of the offence (Section 4 of the Criminal Law Act 1997)"

3) The definition of social gatherings is now updated https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/7894b-post-cabinet-statement-resilience-and-recovery-the-path-ahead/#family-and-social-gatherings

4) The SI lapses in November and can be extended for a maximum of one 3 month period from that date.

I possibly read out-dated SIs. Whichever were linked from citizens information website.

Thanks for the additional links, I'm relieved by your confidence and I'll give them a read and see if my interpretation is similar.