VW ID.3

Going back to my previous moans about the soc, consumption and range. Im not sure which figures the computer is reporting but smth doesn't add up. An example from yesterday - drove 204km with 14.3kWh/100km consumption. This was reported as 64% of soc (80 to 16%). Simple calculations 14.3x2.08=29.7kWh /0.64 = 46.5kWh capacity. Charged from 16% back to 80% - 35.6kWh. Difference is almost 6kWh. Checked background consumption after charging - 0.2kWh/h so 0.13kWh in 40 min of charging so negligible. Range at 80% 333km w/o climate on.

Long term consumption 1542km, 34kmh, 45h, 13.7kWh/100km.

Also my boot handle is probably fall apart soon enough. I thing a few people had replaced. Also I'm pretty sure that the low level wash liquid warning doesn't work. I think there's a recall for that. Also one of the usb port only works if cable turned only one way. Go figure...

There's going to be an energy loss when charging which might account for some of it? I don't have a source to hand, but I remember reading something about it when I got my LEAF (November 2017), and the figure for charging loss was about 10%.

Also, I'm not clear on how the reading (in your case 14.3kWh/100km) incorporates regen. I suspect that the figure is actually higher, but it reports a nett energy use (real minus regen), but I'm open to correction on this. I know that our ID3 is reporting figures very similar to yours, and I'm seeing around 15kWh/100km in my 2015 LEAF at the moment....but certainly in the case of the LEAF, I think regen is skewing the reported figures down. If I was really getting 15kWh/100km in my LEAF, I'd be seeing a range of 125km from full (it has about 18.5kWh capacity left), but I'm getting more like 100km consistently. I can occasionally get 115km if I'm careful, but that's only on warm days!

All - is there somewhere I can enter the VIN number of the car (Id 3) and find exactly what options are fitted?

Had the previous issue with the HUD - it doesnt work - the dealer is now ordering 'a part' for it but it strikes me it's difficult to confirm precisely some of the other features are actually present eg alarm, sound insulating windscreen (Tech spec).

Thanks for any help...

You can find that info in the My Volkswagen section of the website after you login.

There’s an option to add cars by VIN or Commission number.

You are spot on on both of those counts.

You cant calculate battery capacity from the kWh/100km figure or the figures reported on a rapid charger (charge losses) or from the SoC (as its not linear) or from the GOM (as its temp dependent and driver profile dependent).

And generally speaking I wouldnt rely on mpg/kWh figures from the car. The best method is to measure what energy you put into the car when charging it from 0-100% and what range you get from that 100%. Then calculate your own figures for battery capacity and range (at various speeds/conditions).

Any of you PCP folks got confirmation on the extra mileage charge?

As I understand it, it only really matters if you hand the car back after the 3 years (why??) but I'd still like to know. I think I read online that it was 6c per km but the finance agreement just said 6 in the box and it looked more like €6 than 6c lol.

Does the car come with a charge cable? If not, how much is it as an extra?

I have not seen anything about limiting the number of rapid charges. The car has a battery management system and active cooling so it will not allow you to damage it by repeatedly rapid charging it.

The only warranty I've seen in the documentation is the one you reference.... "8 year battery warranty or 160,000km, which ever comes first".

NOTE: That warranty covers the battery down to 70%. So, if the battery is at 80% original capacity after 8 years you have no claim.

I've done a few additional long motorway trips in the 58kWh ID.3 over the last few weeks. Most recently a repeat of the Cork-Dublin run detailed above where I did a return trip in the one day (500km+). Much better conditions this time since its summer and it was also dry.

Conditions:

Temp: 17°C

HVAC at 20°C

Weather: Dry

Speed: 125km/h (Dash readout)

ACC all the way

Stopped at Ionity Kill North with 27% left, 105km range left (vs 14% in winter with 45km left).

That gives about 310km motorway range in summer at full motorway speed and hence no need for stops. We stopped for coffee rather than charging.

Consumption figure on the way up was 18.1kWh/100km. Traffic on the way home was moving a good bit faster and I did get stuck in traffic on the way out of Dublin but the figure going home was 19.3kWh/100km.

I was fortunate this time that I was able to get destination charging in Dublin and so I got back to a 100% charged car for the journey home. It was put to a vote and the decision was not to stop and just get home.... the car duly obliged, no stops and range to spare.

Just some additional stats I collected on the way home.

As a running total starting at 100% from Finglas, I used

10% to get to Ionity Kill South

20% to J14 Mayfield

30% to J17 Midway

38% to J3 Manor Stone

59% to Ionity Cashel

80% to Fermoy

That should give prospective buyers some insight into what the car can do along the Cork-Dublin route and the amount of charging options you have, if required. It significantly reduces your reliance on the public charging network when you dont have to stop for charging... thats a good thing!

The car has really exceeded my expectations in terms of range and usability. I've been in the depths of West Cork, up to Clare, the midlands, Dublin.... all flawless and little need for rapid charging. Its a great car to drive, imo.

Cons:

• The charging timers still dont work. VW need to get the finger out there fast.
• Would have really liked the reversing camera. Its not in our 1st edition. Im considering retrofitting it.
• The Bridgestone tyres have worn off it much too quick (15k km's now and they are done)... not really the cars fault based on other owners with different tyre brand.

All the other cons are really subjective in nature like plastics, touchscreens etc. I dont mind any of that to be honest. The car gives me a smile on my face every time I drive it.... as it should since its a new car!

TL;DR... The 58kWh ID.3 is a 260km-310km range EV at full motorway speed depending on temp/weather. You could get more if you simply slow to, say 110km/h.

You would only really do the 0-100% once just as a research project. I can’t do it on a daily basis. What I know is that with consumption of 14.3 over last 4 days I drove 208 km with reported soc drop of 64%. This theoretically would give range of max of 325km. In reality probably less. I don’t have any other figures to use for daily driving. Below you talk ab the motorway range of 310km, not a chance it’ll happen in my car.

I don’t think I’ll get much info from dongle either as f.e. Tronity app is free for ID.3 as only charging info is available.

Thanks @KCross that's an excellent case study, hopefully will get winter range reports soon. Can I ask do you use the centre console for maps/chargers locations? How good is it without needing to piggy your phones data, does it have a good up to date map of charge locations ?

This is basically what you'll get now if you enter your comm number.

Agree, great car to drive. My figures are fairly similar when I manage to get a bit of motorway driving in. But it's too easy for the speed to creep up over 130km/h if the cruise isn't on.

BTW another thing I have noticed since the first part of the OTA update is that it seems much easier to adjust speed for ACC with the wheel buttons than before. 1km/h increments don't seem to turn into 10km/h anymore..Still waiting on part 2 of update, only 11 days now..😊

If you get a good hard rubber tyre next, you will probably get another 20km on a full tank..

That's why I said "good". But it was a tongue in cheek comment. My Goodyears seem to be lasting well and I am not too easy on them..